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    Drain and re-level AFTER successful SLAM. So Painful!

    So this is my first pool and I'm learning as I go. I set my pool up on a paver patio that I built myself. I built the patio with a retaining wall and pavers and purposely had it slightly sloped for drainage. Once I set the pool up (following recomendations that came with the Intex SWG) I set the run time, added salt, and CYA and let it run. After a week or so the water turned green and cloudy. I found this website, went to Pool School, bought my TF-100, and performed my first SLAM. The result was perfect. Learned a lot about water chemistry and ended up with sparking clear water. If not for the light, you can hardly tell there's even water in there:



    Unfortunately, the slope I intentionally put in the patio was making the pool lean quite a bit.



    The houses are really close together in my neighborhood and there is a fence and neighbors house, downhill, directly behind mine. After reading (and seeing) nightmarish and expensive results from AGP failures, I decided that it was not safe, and not worth the financial risk to wait it out till the end of the season.
    I began draining the pool yesterday and I'm going to take it down, pull up a good 2/3's of the pavers and re-level. Then I will set the pool back up and enjoy the rest of the summer worry free. It's going to take a lot of work, but once again, thanks to the folks at TFP for helping me make the right decision. Anyone else out there with an unlevel AGP, do the right thing. Do the safe thing. Get that pool level before some serious damage occurs, or even worse, someone gets hurt!
    Happy Swiming everyone!
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    Re: Drain and re-level AFTER successful SLAM. So Painful!

    That is heartbreaking, but a smart move on your part Ant. It looked so clean and well done, and I suspect it will look just as good (if not better) after the re-level. Good luck.
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    Re: Drain and re-level AFTER successful SLAM. So Painful!

    Quote Originally Posted by Texas Splash View Post
    That is heartbreaking, but a smart move on your part Ant. It looked so clean and well done, and I suspect it will look just as good (if not better) after the re-level. Good luck.
    Yes you are correct. I forgot to mention, it was a little over 4" out of level. Anythng over 1" is too much. But no worries. Like I said, I have learned a lot fromthis experience, and I am fully confident that following the TFP method, I will have perfect water right from the start.
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    Re: Drain and re-level AFTER successful SLAM. So Painful!

    Yes you will! You are now empowered with so much knowledge. Good luck!


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    Re: Drain and re-level AFTER successful SLAM. So Painful!

    aboykin - I am getting ready to drain and re-level too. Mine is out of whack a couple of inches and the legs looks really close to yours. How did yours go?
    18' x 48" Intex ultra frame
    Standard cartridge filter and SWG that came with the pool
    I started off with a Taylor test kit, but my refills are coming from TFT so I am not sure what kit you would say I have.
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    aboykin - I am getting ready to drain and re-level too. Mine is out of whack a couple of inches and the legs looks really close to yours. How did yours go?
    Smart. Mine is still in progress. My patio is 20x20 and I built it with pavers. I had to rip up about 2/3's of the blocks (that's about 267 12x12 pavers), haul in a yard and a half of sand, and I am re-leveling now. Will probably have most of it done by Thursday (weather permitting) and start setting the POol back up by Friday. I'll let you know and post some pics. Good luck!
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    Re: Drain and re-level AFTER successful SLAM. So Painful!

    Almost done with re-leveling the patio. All the pavers are back in place and now I just to have fill the joints. Using polymeric sand. Planning on putting that down this evening and let it sit over night and thru the day tomorrow. Then I'm SETTING THE POOL BACK UP FRIDAY NIGHT! Hopefully I'll be in there sometime on Saturday!
    Can't wait.
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    Re: Drain and re-level AFTER successful SLAM. So Painful!

    Yea! We have got most of our new fence in place, next will be a small (2 ft tops) retaining wall around the corner of the yard where the pool will be, then level and move. I'm at a crossroad though right now, my pool is blue, but dull. Trying to figure out if I should get it crystal or just live with it for the next few weeks.

    18' x 48" Intex ultra frame
    Standard cartridge filter and SWG that came with the pool
    I started off with a Taylor test kit, but my refills are coming from TFT so I am not sure what kit you would say I have.
    Stir thingy - Check

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    Re: Drain and re-level AFTER successful SLAM. So Painful!

    It's an awful lot of work but you did the right thing! You'll be so glad you did it right the second time n not letting it go all summer. It'll look a heck of a lot better too.

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    Re: Drain and re-level AFTER successful SLAM. So Painful!

    You are one smart cookie! Better safe than sorry! Well done!

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    Re: Drain and re-level AFTER successful SLAM. So Painful!

    Did you get the pool reset?
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    Re: Drain and re-level AFTER successful SLAM. So Painful!

    Quote Originally Posted by Casey View Post
    Did you get the pool reset?
    Not yet. I had to fill in the joints between the pavers last night with poly sand. It has to cure over night and during the day today. When I get home from work this evening, I'm gonna re-set the pool and start filling it. I plan on letting go overnight so I can be IN IT TOMORROW! Woo Hoo! Man have I missed that poll since I had to take it down.
    I'll post some pics when I'm done.
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    Re: Drain and re-level AFTER successful SLAM. So Painful!

    Sweet! Hope you get it done!
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    Re: Drain and re-level AFTER successful SLAM. So Painful!

    YES! Got it done. Had pool set up by Friday evenning and by 5:00AM on Saturday it was full! And LEVEL! I almost cried when I saw it.

    Here's a before shot:
    leaning.jpg

    And after:
    left side level.jpg

    Water line <1/2" off all around!
    water line level.jpg

    right side level.jpg
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    Re: Drain and re-level AFTER successful SLAM. So Painful!

    Pool level - dog-approved. Very nice work. Based on all of those pavers, your back must be screaming. Enjoy!
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    Re: Drain and re-level AFTER successful SLAM. So Painful!

    Also, this time around, I have a much better understanding of water Chemistry. I added CYA, Salt, and some chlorine to keep FC at target levels DURING filling. So once the water was high enough to reach the skimmer, I could turn on the SWG.
    Here are my 1st test results after re-fill:
    FC=5
    CC=0
    pH=7
    TA=90
    CH=75
    HCl=3200
    CYA~70 Can't measure yet.

    So those #'s look pretty good I think. I know my pH is a little low and TA is a bit high, so I'm aerating to get the pH up a bit, then I will look at lowering the TA. Unless you folks think I should leave the TA alone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas Splash View Post
    Pool level - dog-approved. Very nice work. Based on all of those pavers, your back must be screaming. Enjoy!
    You have no idea LOL! Yes it was back breaking work. But worth it. Now I have Trouble Free water and a worry free, SAFE pool!
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    Looks so much better!
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    Re: Drain and re-level AFTER successful SLAM. So Painful!

    Quote Originally Posted by aboykin2269 View Post
    Also, this time around, I have a much better understanding of water Chemistry. I added CYA, Salt, and some chlorine to keep FC at target levels DURING filling. So once the water was high enough to reach the skimmer, I could turn on the SWG.
    Here are my 1st test results after re-fill:
    FC=5
    CC=0
    pH=7
    TA=90
    CH=75
    HCl=3200
    CYA~70 Can't measure yet.

    So those #'s look pretty good I think. I know my pH is a little low and TA is a bit high, so I'm aerating to get the pH up a bit, then I will look at lowering the TA. Unless you folks think I should leave the TA alone?

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    You have no idea LOL! Yes it was back breaking work. But worth it. Now I have Trouble Free water and a worry free, SAFE pool!
    OH believe me she DOES know! Check out HER build thread! She is my hero!

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    You did a wonderful job with your rebuild! The first one looks like a fun house pic!

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    Re: Drain and re-level AFTER successful SLAM. So Painful!

    Thanks Kim. That was an impressive read for sure. I have a little understanding of what Casey went thru as well. My Honey fell three years ago and shattered her shoulder. She had a severe proximal humerus fracture. After surgeries and months of physical therapy, they finally just replaced her shoulder. Now we are back to square one with her PT. But at least she has a nice, safe pool to float in now.
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    Re: Drain and re-level AFTER successful SLAM. So Painful!

    Gentle hugs to your Honey. NOT good to have to start all over but......at least there is an end in sight now. Her floating on a mat and doing the exercises will be wonderful for her.

    I have had my husband in a wheelchair 3 times in our 30 year marriage. NOT fun but......it has been a while since the last time LOL

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