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    Patio material that stays coolest

    We have had a pool for 3ish years and have pavers, reddish dark, probably "generic pavers", and during the summer they can get a little hot. We now want to extend our patio and dont want to spend the 20k to. What are the other options that do not get hot. Thought about concrete and use my pavers in-between to make a pattern, but heard poured concrete can get hot (and some dark stone which is probably expensive and we arent using, can get very hot too). Ive read about acrylic and kooldeck and there's some pros and cons. Personally, I dont love the "orange peel" effect of the kooldeck. And have read acrylic coatings can be slippery (not sure how slippery we are really talking). Brushed concrete? Travertine (would this be more expensive than pavers and I cant use my existing patio pavers)? Would love any ideas and experiences.
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    Re: Patio material that stays coolest

    Travertine pavers or the concrete coatings are going to be the coolest.
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    Re: Patio material that stays coolest

    My rocksalt finish, stained concrete is the coolest surface around my pool. Flagstone, rocks and old bricks are all noticeably hotter. It is also maintenance free.
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    Re: Patio material that stays coolest

    i've gotta say, i live in phx and my marbella is cool. i'm slightly regretting not having made the rest of the patio marbella but i wanted old chicago brick for more of a different look under the grape arbor. plus less $ and i can do it myself. i'll prob put an outdoor rug on it though! this is me only with a month of experience but i know someone else who's had it a few yrs in phoenix and loves it
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    Re: Patio material that stays coolest

    Travertine is the coolest paver out there. I live in South Texas where the sun shines 300 days out of the year

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    I live in NJ and have a Marble coping and it is as cool as can be. I think Marble is very much like Travertine. I have techo block inca pavers for the decking and they are not as cool as the Marble but my feet never feel hot on it. I also have a border of small brick around the techo block and that is very hot. Fortunately it is a small area I can easily avoid.
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    Re: Patio material that stays coolest

    I have acrylic coated concrete. It's almost as cool as cool deck, but is much more durable. Ten years old and I have just resealed it with a new coat of the color coat. One day's work and it now looks like the day it was first installed. It has held up much better than my neighbors cool deck, which started peeling after about five years. It is also non-porous, so no staining or salt damage.

    On the advice of my pool builder, I avoided the use of any natural stone, since this was built as a salt pool. There is no deck surface that you can walk on bare foot in the sun her in Tucson, but this as close as any. You can have it textured and tinted to match brick, travertine, flagstone, or any material you chose. The only limit is the skill and experience of the installer. Oh, and it's not slippery if there is any texture at all. I suppose It might be if you make it completely smooth, but I've never seen that done.
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    Re: Patio material that stays coolest

    I've found that the material is far less important than the reflectivity of the material. If light is absorbed it WILL make [whatever] surface HOT. I actually have a wood deck that gets too hot to walk on. Repainting with a much lighter color is toward the top of my to-do list....

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    Re: Patio material that stays coolest

    Hi chiefwej, What did your PB say the salt system in the pool would do to stone? Thanks

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    Re: Patio material that stays coolest

    Quote Originally Posted by Floridanative123 View Post
    Hi chiefwej, What did your PB say the salt system in the pool would do to stone? Thanks
    Over time salt water splash out causes erosion. Softer more porous stone like flagstone will flake and erode much more quickly, and harder stone will hold up better, but all stone can suffer damage. Salt laden water wets the stone. Any moisture penetration evaporates, leaving salt behind. As the water evaporates, salt crystals form within the stone, causing damage and creating fractures that allow more penetration.
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    Re: Patio material that stays coolest

    We have travertine pavers. They are ivory which is a lighter color and you can lay on your back shirtless at the hottest time of day. You could not even stand in one spot with our old concrete pavers.
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    Re: Patio material that stays coolest

    Quote Originally Posted by JupPool View Post
    We have travertine pavers. They are ivory which is a lighter color and you can lay on your back shirtless at the hottest time of day. You could not even stand in one spot with our old concrete pavers.
    Try that in Tucson and you will leave the skin from your back there. I don't care what surface you have, here you won't be laying on it shirtless.
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    Re: Patio material that stays coolest

    Quote Originally Posted by chiefwej View Post
    Try that in Tucson and you will leave the skin from your back there. I don't care what surface you have, here you won't be laying on it shirtless.
    Well I live in FL and have Country Classic Travertine (http://www.travertinemart.com/wp-con...ClassicFP1.jpg) and typically mid-90's weather...and Jup is right...it's totally cool to the touch. While it wasn't cheap, I would not trade the travertine we installed.
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    Re: Patio material that stays coolest

    100+ degree temps in Texas and our Travertine pavers barely feel warm (and still cool under the patio.) Love the look and the feel!

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    Re: Patio material that stays coolest

    Quote Originally Posted by outdoorsgal View Post
    i've gotta say, i live in phx and my marbella is cool.
    Hi outdoorsgal... I was looking at paver material and was at one of the largest pool builders in the Phoenix area looking at their paver display... I could walk on the various materials barefoot to compare... travertine and marbella were the coolest by far. Later I was at a stone supplier and asked about marbella and was told it was much softer and porous than travertine... what has your experience been with the marbella thus far? Thanks. Kirk
    Owner in Phoenix 16.5'X37', 27,000 gal pool; rennovation summer/fall 2015 to remove in ground sytem, resurfaced w/pebble sheen cool blue and update all equipment: Pentair 011018 IntelliFlo VS pump; Pentair 160332 Clean & Clear Plus 520 sf cartridge filter; Pentair Auto Fill; Pentair Intellichem, Pentair EasyTouch automation (including SWCG); ThePoolCleaner (suction side).

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    Quote Originally Posted by chiefwej View Post
    Try that in Tucson and you will leave the skin from your back there. I don't care what surface you have, here you won't be laying on it shirtless.
    I'm in south Florida and it gets smoking hot but travertine doesn't. Fact
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