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JasonLion
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Post subject: Re: The Pool Calculator  Posted: June 8th, 2009, 7:17 pm |
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A good rule of thumb is that one gallon of 6% bleach will raise 10,000 gallons by 6 ppm. Extending that to different size pools and different desired FC increases is fairly simple.
<amount of 6% bleach to add in oz> = (<desired FC increase>/6) * (<gallons>/10000) * 128
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smileddog
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Post subject: Re: The Pool Calculator  Posted: June 15th, 2009, 10:32 pm |
Joined: May 16th, 2009, 2:59 pm Posts: 44 Location: Syracuse, NY
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is there anyway to download the poolcalculator to your desktop? so i dont have to log onto the internet each time to enter my #'s. sometimes I dont have the laptop on and it can be a pain,
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JasonLion
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Post subject: Re: The Pool Calculator  Posted: June 16th, 2009, 8:38 am |
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smileddog wrote: is there anyway to download the poolcalculator to your desktop? so i dont have to log onto the internet each time to enter my #'s. sometimes I dont have the laptop on and it can be a pain, Yes. The exact command varies a little between web browsers, essentially you go to the Pool Calculator and then save the current page, either as a web archive or as an .html file. That saved file can then be loaded into your browser even when you don't have an Internet connection. And there is also the iPhone version.
_________________ 19K gal, vinyl, 1/2 HP WhisperFlo pump, 200 sqft cartridge filter, AutoPilot Digital SWG, Dolphin Dynamic cleaning robot TFP Admin. Creator of The Pool Calculator. Other handy links: Support this site, TF Test Kits, Pool School
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chitown
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Post subject: Re: The Pool Calculator  Posted: June 17th, 2009, 5:26 pm |
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thecrave wrote: taekwondodo wrote: Can I get the same app for my BB (please???) I second that request! another BB request. thanks!
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Gooserider
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Post subject: Minor Web PC UI bug report and feature request...  Posted: July 23rd, 2009, 7:24 pm |
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I encountered a minor bug in the web version of the Pool Calc this evening that had me severely puzzled for a while... It is what I would class as a "User Interface Bug" rather than a functional issue. When I was punching in my test values, I accidentally fat fingered it, and entered my TA as 1100 instead of 110  Because the data window only shows 3 digits, the extra zero didn't show, but my calculated CSI went to 1.1  and the reason didn't show until I noticed that the advice window was telling me how to adjust the value given a TA of 1100... Would it be possible to either increase the size of the data window to 4 digits (like the CYA window) so that the error will show, or pop up an error box if too many digits are entered? - Note that similar issues may exist for the other value windows as well... As I said, this isn't a functional problem, as presumably the program made the right calculation given the bad input, but ideal user interface design should make it as easy to spot bad inputs as possible... The feature request relates to a minor annoyance with the Pool Calc... Every time I restart my browser and go to the PC, I have to reinput the size of my pool, and all the other variable data like surface type, value set, etc..., along w/ the current values for all the test results that don't really change like borates and CYA... Not a huge problem, but a bit of a PITA to do every time... Would it be possible to do something like stick the values into one or more persistent cookies or some such item (maybe a user id and a database on your end?) so that the calc will "automagically" preload the correct values? Gooserider
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Ran on BBB last summer, never saw the pool looking so good, and with so little effort. Pool now closed for winter.
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frustratedpoolmom
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Post subject: Re: The Pool Calculator  Posted: July 23rd, 2009, 8:42 pm |
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The cookies issue maybe specific to your security/computer settings....mine stays the same as the last entry I put in...
Interesting find....
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keri1973
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Post subject: Re: Minor Web PC UI bug report and feature request...  Posted: July 23rd, 2009, 9:01 pm |
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Gooserider wrote: I encountered a minor bug in the web version of the Pool Calc this evening that had me severely puzzled for a while... It is what I would class as a "User Interface Bug" rather than a functional issue. When I was punching in my test values, I accidentally fat fingered it, and entered my TA as 1100 instead of 110  Because the data window only shows 3 digits, the extra zero didn't show, but my calculated CSI went to 1.1  and the reason didn't show until I noticed that the advice window was telling me how to adjust the value given a TA of 1100... Would it be possible to either increase the size of the data window to 4 digits (like the CYA window) so that the error will show, or pop up an error box if too many digits are entered? - Note that similar issues may exist for the other value windows as well... As I said, this isn't a functional problem, as presumably the program made the right calculation given the bad input, but ideal user interface design should make it as easy to spot bad inputs as possible... The feature request relates to a minor annoyance with the Pool Calc... Every time I restart my browser and go to the PC, I have to reinput the size of my pool, and all the other variable data like surface type, value set, etc..., along w/ the current values for all the test results that don't really change like borates and CYA... Not a huge problem, but a bit of a PITA to do every time... Would it be possible to do something like stick the values into one or more persistent cookies or some such item (maybe a user id and a database on your end?) so that the calc will "automagically" preload the correct values? Gooserider I have to re-enter info too??
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JasonLion
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Post subject: Re: The Pool Calculator  Posted: July 23rd, 2009, 9:06 pm |
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Joined: May 7th, 2007, 3:03 pm Posts: 22093 Location: Silver Spring, MD
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I will add larger input fields to the wish list.
The current settings are saved in a cookie. That should work unless you have cookies disabled. Some web browsers always disable cookies for pages loaded from your local machine, so if you saved a copy of the page to your local drive and are using that, it might not work.
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Gooserider
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Post subject: Re: The Pool Calculator  Posted: July 23rd, 2009, 11:36 pm |
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Joined: February 25th, 2009, 11:34 pm Posts: 153 Location: North Billerica, MA, USA, etc.
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JasonLion wrote: I will add larger input fields to the wish list. Thanks... Quote: The current settings are saved in a cookie. That should work unless you have cookies disabled. Some web browsers always disable cookies for pages loaded from your local machine, so if you saved a copy of the page to your local drive and are using that, it might not work. Ahh... Thanks for that info - I didn't know that it was saving a cookie so I hadn't actally looked. Since you mentioned it, I just checked my site specific settings and found that I had Opera set to "delete new cookies on exit"  I have cleared that setting, now the only restriction on cookies from the pool calc is only to accept cookies from the site visited... Will see if that solves the problem. Gooserider
_________________ Free-form Inground gunnite pool, Estimated 16-17K gallons. Purex model SMBW4036 36sq ft DE filter, Hayward Mod SP1607X10 Pump w/ 1HP replacement motor, 1.5" plumbing all over, Polaris Pressure side cleaner w/ booster pump, more than 15yrs old, less than 30. Not painted, deteriorating tile surround.
Ran on BBB last summer, never saw the pool looking so good, and with so little effort. Pool now closed for winter.
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spriteman
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Post subject: Re: The Pool Calculator  Posted: July 28th, 2009, 9:12 pm |
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great iPhone App! nice job. use it almost every week.
-->> Feature Request: add capability to support multiple pools. I help my neighbor with her pool (she's elderly). would be nice to have both my pool data and her pool data right at my finger tips.
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Gooserider
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Post subject: Re: The Pool Calculator  Posted: July 28th, 2009, 9:37 pm |
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Just as a minor update, I have restarted my browser a couple of times since fixing the cookie setting as suggested in my earlier post, and it seems to now be holding my settings and numbers appropriately - so not a problem for me any longer.
Checking for proper cookie handling definitely seems like one of the first things to check if there are any data retention issues...
Gooserider
_________________ Free-form Inground gunnite pool, Estimated 16-17K gallons. Purex model SMBW4036 36sq ft DE filter, Hayward Mod SP1607X10 Pump w/ 1HP replacement motor, 1.5" plumbing all over, Polaris Pressure side cleaner w/ booster pump, more than 15yrs old, less than 30. Not painted, deteriorating tile surround.
Ran on BBB last summer, never saw the pool looking so good, and with so little effort. Pool now closed for winter.
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taekwondodo
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Post subject: Re: The Pool Calculator  Posted: July 31st, 2009, 4:36 pm |
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again, begging for a blackberry version. Pretty Please?  The webpage is just a PITA on my BB Storm...
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sgtdvldog
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Post subject: Re: The Pool Calculator  Posted: August 13th, 2009, 9:41 am |
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I had tried to get to the Pool Calculator from my Palm Centro and it wouldn't work correctly. So I took the formulas and put them into a spreadsheet that I can view from Documents to go.
This isn't as inclusive as the website, but it suits my needs. If I need to double check something I go to the website. This spreadsheet calculates Bleach, Borax, Baking Soda, Calcium Chloride and Stabilizer only. It calculates Bleach by oz and the rest by weight. If you use it, you will need to put in the Gallons and Bleach %.
Forgot to mention, it should work on a pc/laptop as well as long as you have something that can open up MS Excel spreadsheets.
Hope others find this useful.
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PaulR
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Post subject: Re: The Pool Calculator  Posted: August 14th, 2009, 11:47 pm |
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Over here, lilredhen got into a minor fix because the borates section is hardcoded to 31.45% muriatic acid; probably would be helpful to make that user settable, like it is in the pH section. --paulr
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sgtdvldog
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Post subject: Re: The Pool Calculator  Posted: August 15th, 2009, 12:20 am |
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In the spreadsheet I posted, if you know how to work formulas in Excel, it should be an easy fix.
_________________ 24'x4' AGP Round S166T Hayward Sand Filter S48K2A2 Hayward Pump
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JasonLion
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Post subject: Re: The Pool Calculator  Posted: August 15th, 2009, 10:26 am |
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PaulR wrote: borates section is hardcoded to 31.45% muriatic acid Added to the wish list.
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