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totalnoob
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Post subject: Switched to BBB, pool looking great, but pH goes up now  Posted: July 26th, 2012, 11:02 am |
Joined: June 3rd, 2012, 9:46 pm Posts: 40 Location: Folsom, CA
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I recently made the switch to BBB, and pool has been looking really good, water seems shiny and soft, and the amount of bleach to add has come down. Happy so far. However, I have noticed that the pH goes up to around 7.8 or so. I brought it down to 7.4, and within 4-5 days, it goes up to 7.8. Is it normal?
Test results are:
pH: 7.8 FC: 2.5 CC: Absent TA: 90 CH: 200 CYA: 35
Is everything looking good or I need to so something about pH?
_________________ ---------------- 9,700 gallon, in-ground pool, Cartridge filter, Irregular (kidney) shape, Taylor K-2006 test kit, small rock waterfall.
Pool School + Test Kit + Test Kit Directions +The Pool Calculator = A TROUBLE FREE POOL
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RobbieH
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Post subject: Re: Switched to BBB, pool looking great, but pH goes up now  Posted: July 26th, 2012, 11:05 am |
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Joined: August 30th, 2010, 12:29 pm Posts: 1971 Location: Dallas, TX
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Your waterfall will cause pH to rise. So will splashing, fountains, etc. If you lower your TA just a bit, it may help, but you aren't far off at 90 already.
_________________ Built in 1957 44,000 gallon in-ground gunite/plaster pool, 600 lb. Pentair Triton II T100 Sand Filter, CompuPool CPCS48 SWG, Borates at 50 ppm, TF-100 test kit
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totalnoob
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Post subject: Re: Switched to BBB, pool looking great, but pH goes up now  Posted: July 26th, 2012, 11:16 am |
Joined: June 3rd, 2012, 9:46 pm Posts: 40 Location: Folsom, CA
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Thanks for the replies. I will raise the FC today. I have noticed that even without using waterfall, pH goes up, but it is probably due to splashing  , so I will add acid to lower the pH and TA. Hopefully, it will get stable soon. Thanks a bunch everyone 
_________________ ---------------- 9,700 gallon, in-ground pool, Cartridge filter, Irregular (kidney) shape, Taylor K-2006 test kit, small rock waterfall.
Pool School + Test Kit + Test Kit Directions +The Pool Calculator = A TROUBLE FREE POOL
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Richard320
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Post subject: Re: Switched to BBB, pool looking great, but pH goes up now  Posted: July 26th, 2012, 11:45 am |
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Joined: January 6th, 2010, 10:54 am Posts: 4687 Location: San Dimas, CA (LA County)
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Yes, very normal for California. I suspect you've been adding water to replace splashout and evaporation, and it will raise TA, which will drive pH upwards. It may not show on a test, if it only raised the pool 4 or 5 ppm, but it's there nonetheless.
Just for kicks, test your tap water.
_________________ 16K freeform gunite with spa; Pentair 4000 DE filter; Century Whisperflow 1 HP; Pentair Minimax heater. Troublefree does not mean Maintenancefree. It's like brushing your teeth: You can spend a couple minutes a day and pennies a week or go to the dentist once a year and spend several thousand dollars.
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totalnoob
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Post subject: Re: Switched to BBB, pool looking great, but pH goes up now  Posted: July 26th, 2012, 11:53 am |
Joined: June 3rd, 2012, 9:46 pm Posts: 40 Location: Folsom, CA
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Thats a good suggestion Richard to test the tap water. I will do that too.
Our pool has that auto-fill up (I am sorry if I am using the wrong term), so I tend to agree with you.
_________________ ---------------- 9,700 gallon, in-ground pool, Cartridge filter, Irregular (kidney) shape, Taylor K-2006 test kit, small rock waterfall.
Pool School + Test Kit + Test Kit Directions +The Pool Calculator = A TROUBLE FREE POOL
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ROB N
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Post subject: Re: Switched to BBB, pool looking great, but pH goes up now  Posted: July 26th, 2012, 12:15 pm |
Joined: November 26th, 2010, 4:06 pm Posts: 264 Location: Calera, Al
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If you had previously been using trichlor pucks, they are acidic and help to lower ph. So, by not using them you will need to manually lower ph with MA or dry acid.
_________________ 17,000 gal, IG Gunite Diamond Brite plaster Kidneybean,w/7x11 tanning ledge& 3x5 swimout bench,244T 300lb Hayward Pro high rate sand filter(63 GPM) , Hayward 1Hp Super Pump w/3/4 hp booster pump, Polaris 280, Laars Lite 2 175k N/G Heater, Tf-100, Speed stir
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Bluechip
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Post subject: Re: Switched to BBB, pool looking great, but pH goes up now  Posted: July 26th, 2012, 12:48 pm |
Joined: February 5th, 2012, 11:32 am Posts: 50 Location: Cypress, TX
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My pool is still new (4 months) and we have a continuously overflowing spa. Rising ph is my greatest expense at the moment. I was adding about 36oz of MA every other day. It seems to have slowed down a bit lately and now I add about 36oz every three or four days. Recently while on and 8 day vacation I was forced to use pucs and upon returning the the ph was as low as I had ever seen, around 7.2.
So yes, I think it's normal.
_________________ 23x40 freeform w/spa, 28,000 gal. PCC-2000 in-floor cleaning. Pebble Sheen w/flagstone coping. 14' weeping wall, (2) 18" sheer descents. Sta Rite- cart 400 sqft. filter, Intellipro VS pump, 1hp (cleaning)2hp (water feature)Max E Pro's. Easy Touch 8 function w/IPod. Rainbow chlorinator, Paramount Clear O3 (I know, I know), Max-E-Therm 400K heater.
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smooth2222
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Post subject: Re: Switched to BBB, pool looking great, but pH goes up now  Posted: August 1st, 2012, 12:03 am |
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Joined: October 25th, 2010, 8:41 pm Posts: 156 Location: michigan
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Bluechip wrote: My pool is still new (4 months) and we have a continuously overflowing spa. Rising ph is my greatest expense at the moment. I was adding about 36oz of MA every other day. It seems to have slowed down a bit lately and now I add about 36oz every three or four days. Recently while on and 8 day vacation I was forced to use pucs and upon returning the the ph was as low as I had ever seen, around 7.2.
So yes, I think it's normal. I also have a spa that is continious, I adjusted my valves on my spa so the water just trickles over into the pool, and has reduced my MA use. Also a lower TA will reduce the amount of MA you use.
_________________ 15,000 gallon inground fiberglass pool with spa. 350lb Sand filter, 1.5 hp pump, and heater
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moyer02
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Post subject: Re: Switched to BBB, pool looking great, but pH goes up now  Posted: August 1st, 2012, 12:17 am |
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Joined: October 11th, 2010, 6:29 pm Posts: 55 Location: Pensacola, FL
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After I added borates, my ph is much more stable. Maybe that can work for you if you haven't already added.
_________________ Bill and Pat in Pensacola
10k gallon 12x24 in ground pool built 2008, vinyl, Pentair Intellichlor IC40, Pentair Intelliflo v/s pump, Pentair Legend Platinum cleaner w/booster pump, Pentair Sand filter
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techguy
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Post subject: Re: Switched to BBB, pool looking great, but pH goes up now  Posted: August 1st, 2012, 2:50 am |
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Joined: July 21st, 2010, 1:34 am Posts: 926 Location: Antelope, CA
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I added some borates 10-15 PPM and my pH has not moved since, I was needing to add MA every few days but not since adding the borates via the Borax/MA treatment.
_________________ -- Guy -- 10K gallons in 21' Round 52 inch wall Aqualeader AG, Hayward Power Flow LX 1.5 HP pump motor, Hayward Perflex EC50AC DE filter w/Cellulose, Wide mouth skimmer, faded old Hayward AquaBug. TF-100
I never backwash. If I need a recharge, I open and clean the fingers, everytime.
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totalnoob
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Post subject: Re: Switched to BBB, pool looking great, but pH goes up now  Posted: August 1st, 2012, 10:12 am |
Joined: June 3rd, 2012, 9:46 pm Posts: 40 Location: Folsom, CA
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I have already added borates. I just received my test strips yesterday, so now I will test the borate level.
_________________ ---------------- 9,700 gallon, in-ground pool, Cartridge filter, Irregular (kidney) shape, Taylor K-2006 test kit, small rock waterfall.
Pool School + Test Kit + Test Kit Directions +The Pool Calculator = A TROUBLE FREE POOL
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totalnoob
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Post subject: Re: Switched to BBB, pool looking great, but pH goes up now  Posted: August 1st, 2012, 11:01 am |
Joined: June 3rd, 2012, 9:46 pm Posts: 40 Location: Folsom, CA
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Hey neighbor..good to see another Sacramento person here. I have learned a lot from this site, and am already taking care of the pool on my own. Really glad to have found this forum (planning to be a supporter soon).
quote="Christian"]Hiya neighbor! I just bought a house in Sacramento in March![/quote]
_________________ ---------------- 9,700 gallon, in-ground pool, Cartridge filter, Irregular (kidney) shape, Taylor K-2006 test kit, small rock waterfall.
Pool School + Test Kit + Test Kit Directions +The Pool Calculator = A TROUBLE FREE POOL
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techguy
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Post subject: Re: Switched to BBB, pool looking great, but pH goes up now  Posted: August 1st, 2012, 11:25 am |
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Joined: July 21st, 2010, 1:34 am Posts: 926 Location: Antelope, CA
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Christian wrote: Hiya neighbor! I just bought a house in Sacramento in March! Well, there's three of us in this thread. I have not noticed Blake hiding anywhere.
_________________ -- Guy -- 10K gallons in 21' Round 52 inch wall Aqualeader AG, Hayward Power Flow LX 1.5 HP pump motor, Hayward Perflex EC50AC DE filter w/Cellulose, Wide mouth skimmer, faded old Hayward AquaBug. TF-100
I never backwash. If I need a recharge, I open and clean the fingers, everytime.
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totalnoob
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Post subject: Re: Switched to BBB, pool looking great, but pH goes up now  Posted: August 1st, 2012, 5:39 pm |
Joined: June 3rd, 2012, 9:46 pm Posts: 40 Location: Folsom, CA
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Hey roseville neighbor  blakej wrote: :cheers: Sacramento Represent! 
_________________ ---------------- 9,700 gallon, in-ground pool, Cartridge filter, Irregular (kidney) shape, Taylor K-2006 test kit, small rock waterfall.
Pool School + Test Kit + Test Kit Directions +The Pool Calculator = A TROUBLE FREE POOL
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