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msujohn
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Post subject: SWG Questions  Posted: November 15th, 2011, 9:11 pm |
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Joined: June 10th, 2011, 8:22 pm Posts: 60 Location: Frisco, Texas
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I'm getting some bids to build my pool and have a few questions about SWG's. I've read all the negatives regarding the Nature2 units (the cooper it puts into the pool) but one builder is telling me that the nature2/SWG is a better unit (just don't use the mineral cartidge) than getting a stand alone Jandy SWG? Is there any truth to this? He's telling me it is actually cheaper as well compared to the stand alone? Also, do I need to get a puck chlorinator (rainbow 320) to help out when the SWG doesn't work in the winter? Is there any problem getting the rainbow unit and only using it as a back up?
_________________ 33'x21' In-ground (23,000 gal) - 8' spa raised 18" with 8 jets | Filtration Jandy DE 60 | Sanitation Aquapure 1400 SWG | Pumps Intelliflo VS+SVRS 3.0HP & Jandy 1.5HP stealth water feature pump | Heating Jandy LRZ400 | Lighting Jandy LED Spa (1)/Pool (2) | Coping Tennessee Crab Orchard & Moss Rock | Finish pebble sheen type (riversand) Tahoe Blue
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JasonLion
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Post subject: Re: SWG Questions  Posted: November 15th, 2011, 10:56 pm |
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Joined: May 7th, 2007, 3:03 pm Posts: 23820 Location: Silver Spring, MD
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The nature2/SWG combo units tend to be undersized compared to other brands that claim support for the same size pool. Other than that they have about the same chance of problems as other units. My assumption is that the builder is pushing it because of their profit is higher on that unit, not because of what actually works better, but you never know.
There is no need for a puck feeder, but it can be handy to have one occasionally. They don't get in the way when you aren't using them.
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anonapersona
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Post subject: Re: SWG Questions  Posted: November 17th, 2011, 6:30 pm |
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Interjecting dumb question here... why wouldn't a SWG work in the winter?
I can see that maybe the filter won't run much in the winter but then you have to have circulation for the puck chlorinator as well.
_________________ 22,000 gallon in ground pool with rock waterfall and spillover spa, Aqualink control system, Polaris cleaner, Purex Triton Clean&Clear Plus cartridge filter. Located in The Woodlands, Texas. Trouble Free Pool since April 2009.
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mas985
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Post subject: Re: SWG Questions  Posted: November 17th, 2011, 7:32 pm |
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Joined: May 3rd, 2007, 9:45 am Posts: 3405 Location: Pleasanton, CA
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Most SWGs will have an automatic shut off at a certain temperature. Mine shuts off at 50 degrees but I have found that algae doesn't grow when the water is that cold so I don't bother with adding chlorine. But then again, the water doesn't usually stay below 50 for more than a week or two and it is at a time of year when chlorine extinction is very low so there may be some carry over.
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msujohn
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Post subject: Re: SWG Questions  Posted: November 17th, 2011, 8:32 pm |
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Joined: June 10th, 2011, 8:22 pm Posts: 60 Location: Frisco, Texas
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For the situation that I will be in. I will still need someway to sanitize the spa in the winter? How can I do that with a SWG that turns off?
_________________ 33'x21' In-ground (23,000 gal) - 8' spa raised 18" with 8 jets | Filtration Jandy DE 60 | Sanitation Aquapure 1400 SWG | Pumps Intelliflo VS+SVRS 3.0HP & Jandy 1.5HP stealth water feature pump | Heating Jandy LRZ400 | Lighting Jandy LED Spa (1)/Pool (2) | Coping Tennessee Crab Orchard & Moss Rock | Finish pebble sheen type (riversand) Tahoe Blue
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XsAllOverIt
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Post subject: Re: SWG Questions  Posted: November 18th, 2011, 7:10 am |
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I winterize my pool and use my attached hot tub all winter. I use chlorine during the winter. Normally, an SWG in that situation won't be your solution. Even running at 10%, it is made to chlorinate your pool and chlorine levels will be too high with the SWG running unless you turn it off/unplug it for the majority of the day. I find adding 1 cup of chlorine in my 600 gallon hot tub about 2-3 times per week to be a no-brainer.
_________________ 18 x 36 Inground Gunnite, White Plaster 21K gallon 18" raised spa, 8' Diameter (620 gallon) Triton II Sand filter, Intellichlor IC40 SWG Pentair Pump, Max-E-Therm 400 BTU Lamotte ColorQ PRO 7-Plus test kit TFT-100 test kit
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mas985
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Post subject: Re: SWG Questions  Posted: November 18th, 2011, 10:40 am |
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msujohn wrote: For the situation that I will be in. I will still need someway to sanitize the spa in the winter? How can I do that with a SWG that turns off? You will need some chlorine when you decide to use the spa but I would assume that you turn on the heat when running the spa, correct? That will heat the water and the SWG will then turn on and you will get plenty of chlorine in the SPA while it heats. But your water may not ever get cold enough to shut off the SWG anyway.
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18'x36' 20k gallon plaster/gunite pool, 1/2 HP 2sp pump, Aqualogic PS8 SWCG, 420 sq-ft Cartridge Filter, 450 sq-ft EPDM Solar Panel, 6 jet spa, 1 HP jet pump, 400k BTU NG Heater Hydraulics 101; Pump Ed 101; FSEC Solar Panel Information
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XsAllOverIt
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Post subject: Re: SWG Questions  Posted: November 18th, 2011, 10:51 am |
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mas985 wrote: msujohn wrote: That will heat the water and the SWG will then turn on and you will get plenty of chlorine in the SPA while it heats. But your water may not ever get cold enough to shut off the SWG anyway. Just remember your SWG is made for the entire volume of the pool and spa, so your chlorine levels may get WAY TOO HIGH if you use it full-time. As I said, it's much easier to disconnect the SWG during the winter and use small amounts of Clorox.
_________________ 18 x 36 Inground Gunnite, White Plaster 21K gallon 18" raised spa, 8' Diameter (620 gallon) Triton II Sand filter, Intellichlor IC40 SWG Pentair Pump, Max-E-Therm 400 BTU Lamotte ColorQ PRO 7-Plus test kit TFT-100 test kit
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mas985
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Post subject: Re: SWG Questions  Posted: November 18th, 2011, 11:13 am |
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Joined: May 3rd, 2007, 9:45 am Posts: 3405 Location: Pleasanton, CA
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My SWG controller (and most others) have two modes, one for the pool and one for the spa so when in spa mode, the % setting is lower and won't add too much chlorine. With a spa, I would make sure any SWG that you are looking at has this capability.
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18'x36' 20k gallon plaster/gunite pool, 1/2 HP 2sp pump, Aqualogic PS8 SWCG, 420 sq-ft Cartridge Filter, 450 sq-ft EPDM Solar Panel, 6 jet spa, 1 HP jet pump, 400k BTU NG Heater Hydraulics 101; Pump Ed 101; FSEC Solar Panel Information
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msujohn
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Post subject: Re: SWG Questions  Posted: November 18th, 2011, 11:44 am |
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Joined: June 10th, 2011, 8:22 pm Posts: 60 Location: Frisco, Texas
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Thanks for all the advice. I will have to see if my SWG will have a SPA only mode. Otherwise, I can just use the chlorine option.
_________________ 33'x21' In-ground (23,000 gal) - 8' spa raised 18" with 8 jets | Filtration Jandy DE 60 | Sanitation Aquapure 1400 SWG | Pumps Intelliflo VS+SVRS 3.0HP & Jandy 1.5HP stealth water feature pump | Heating Jandy LRZ400 | Lighting Jandy LED Spa (1)/Pool (2) | Coping Tennessee Crab Orchard & Moss Rock | Finish pebble sheen type (riversand) Tahoe Blue
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