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    Unconventional heater?

    also yes, I have the pH up to 7.5. It seems obvious but I had been doing what the installers told me instead of what should have been obvious
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    Unconventional heater?

    Apparently the Raypak people don't want to sell me a heater since they still haven't called back with a quote. If not Raypak, what's a second choice?
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    Unconventional heater?

    What did he not like about the Lochinvar? Was it difficult to install, or did it not run properly?
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    Unconventional heater?

    http://www.poolheatpumps.com/lochinvar.htm any thoughts on this one? I was surprised at the 3 year warrantee
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    Unconventional heater?

    Any idea why not?
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    Unconventional heater?

    I've read elsewhere that there is no need for CYA in pools that are indoors since there is no UV light hitting the water - - - Updated - - - No, not in the skimmer, in a separate plastic container that drifts around the pool until the biscuit dissolves and then it floats to the surface - - -...
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    Unconventional heater?

    Another thing that I've noticed (just did a test strip after the pool has cooled about 30 degrees from having the heater bypassed since it leaked to the point of shutting off the ignition) when this happens and we have to shut it down the chlorine level spikes up. Normally it barely registers...
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    Unconventional heater?

    Not sure if this was your point and I have a bunch of other things going on right now, so might drift off the topic, but we use straight chlorine. I have a little different biology apparently than other people and get terribly sick if bromine is used. I realize that that is the exception
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    Unconventional heater?

    pH = 7.0 use test strips ?CYA level, it's not on the strips talked to a pool contractor who said he's too far away but suggested a heat pump with a back up gas fired...then he just rambled off topic. I had a lot of trouble understanding him. I couldn't understand if he was talking about...
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    Unconventional heater?

    Raypak Digital Natural Gas Pool Heater 200k BTU | Electronic Ignition | P-R206A-EN-C 009216 P-M206A-EN-C 009962 I was thinking of getting this, if I can first find a local plumber who can install it, made some calls, waiting for an answer. I'm having trouble though with their site, can't find...
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    Unconventional heater?

    Current dead model is a H200. I don't remember the previous model, but it was a little bigger. The first one before that ultimately turned out to be a retrofitted propane heater sold to us and installed by a Hayward authorized dealer as a new NG heater. Since propane and NG do not burn at the...
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    Unconventional heater?

    The pump/heater room is vented. There's never been a problem with sweating or any corrosion on the outside. When the unit worked it wasn't even hot to the touch, but heated the water. The leaks always start with the heat exchanger. Normally the pH is rock stable and we were advised to run the...
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    Unconventional heater?

    It used to be well water that was off the scale for hardness, but when we finally got city water available it didn't improve anything. Are you saying that a high flow pump (which was recommended by the heater company) may simply be causing mechanical erosion? Yes, it's always the heat exchanger...
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    Pool too warm in the summer

    It may not be quick enough for your liking, but can you plant something to simply shade the pool?
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    Unconventional heater?

    Due to nerve damage I need water therapy (physical therapy in water at about 89F). I have an indoor, inground pool and have had a series of Hayward natural gas heaters. They always seem to leak 1-6 months after the warrantee is up. Looking back over bills for about 15 years, we've had to pay...