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    need pebble start up help fast

    The pebble tec was acid washed today and the pool is currently filling. I decided to handle the start up myself to save a few bucks but I didn't do enough research. Anyway, now I'm scrambling to gather what I need to do this correctly. I have liquid muriatic acid, liquid chlorine, metal gone...
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    owner builder in socal

    Steve, can you explain how the plumber set up your heater/filter bypass? Did he use a 3 way valve? I'll have 3" suction, 2 1/2" return to spa, 50' run. Also, how did you configure your jet placement? Thanks, Mike.
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    owner builder in socal

    He said it would be an extra 40' of pipe or around 150 or so more dollars. He thinks it's a waste of money and said he plumbed his own pool without looped returns. I may just say loop em to be sure their equal. I had him run one 2" to the deep end floor teed off to four eyeball fittings. This is...
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    owner builder in socal

    He's working on my pool today. He says he'll run 2" to the closest return, then 1 1/2 to the next two, then 1" to the farthest one. Says he's been doing it that way for 25 years. I said go ahead and do it your way. Thanks for all the helpfull responses. It's nice to have an unbiased opinion on...
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    owner builder in socal

    Plumber does not plan on looping the pool returns. Is this an acceptable way to go or should I insist they be looped?
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    owner builder in socal

    A friends pool has two 1" returns in the deep end floor and says they are very effective in heating the pool quicker. So based on his experience I figure between the four surface returns and two bottom drain cover type returns plumbed with 2", I should get at least the same results. Our...
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    owner builder in socal

    Well, pool is dug. We didn't hit water and went to 7 1/2 feet deep. I haven't figured out how to upload pics yet but will post some when I do. Plumber came today to set his main drains before steel. I decided to have a deep heat line plumbed in on a seperate valve. Plumber will set one line with...
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    LED lights with grey plaster

    Can you post a picture of your light setup? I have a similar shape being built with 2 lights and trying to figure out a good light placement. Thanks
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    owner builder in socal

    Thanks for the input on the spa plumbing. I'm now faced with raising the bond beam around half the pool 6" due to difference in house elevation. I can raise the area 6" for about 8 feet , then step up to +12" for 6 more feet which will then meet the spa which is +18". Or I can keep it all at...
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    owner builder in socal

    O.k. I'll definitely go with 3" spa suction side. Is there a optimal jet configuration such as stacking groups of 2 or is it just personal preferences. Thanks for the help, only 3 days left till plumbing.
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    owner builder in socal

    The brick we picked out is a brown flashed. I guess it's flashed with some kind of paint to give it a grayish tint with brown. I was wondering if the salt would have any effect in painted surfaces. I'll give the manufacturer a call on that one to be sure. Jim, do you have any recommendation for...
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    owner builder in socal

    Due to the style of the house, bullnose brick coping would probably be the best way to go. Any problems using brick coping with a SWG?
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    owner builder in socal

    I think the concern was the steep slope of the pool floor. I'll just have to make the call the day of the dig I guess. My neighbor has the deep heat returns and says it is the one thing above all else that he is glad he installed. Says the pool heats up much quicker than before. He installed...
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    owner builder in socal

    O.k. I think I'll keep it at 7 '. Any thoughts on the deep heat returns at the bottom of the pool? Adds a few hundred to the plumbing bid.
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    owner builder in socal

    Do you think I should go deeper than 7 feet if possible? Or will that make too much of a dropoff from shallow to deep end?
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    owner builder in socal

    O.k. I got my permit. Excavator is coming Monday. I'm still unsure of depth for deep end. The pool is freeform kind of an L shape. Thinking 3.5 to 7'. Excavator says not to go much deeper. Any thoughts? Don't plan on a diving board but don't want anyone hitting their heads either. Not sure of...
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    owner builder in socal

    Jimt thanks for the reply and all the great advice. I will be sumbitting a drawing and engineering plans to the city tomorrow. They tell me 10-21 days for plan check. I figure that gives me a few days to finish getting the subs lined up. I have excavator, steel, plumber and gunite ready to go...
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    owner builder in socal

    After about interviewing 6 builders, I've decided to take the owner builder route. I'm planning on a freeform gunite or shotcrete pool roughly 15x30 with attached spa raised 18". Thinking maybe 3.5 to 6 feet deep. I have fair construction knowledge and feel confident I can get this done. I do...
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    hopeful owner builder in socal

    Thanks for the words of encouragement. Standby for many questions.
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    hopeful owner builder in socal

    Hello. I'm hoping to get started with an owner builder pool in the next few weeks. This looks like a great site for a do it yourselfer like me. I had a service and repair co. of my own about 10 years ago, but no pool building experience. I have subs ready to go but need to research the latest...