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So, the surface of my pool is flaking and such. I'm guessing the pool went in when the house was built, so 1987. I just had someone out to quote the refurb, and for a 6000gal, 67ft perimeter, it came to about $6000 for chipping out, replacing with white quartz plaster, new quartzite flagstones...

Overdue update: Everything went perfect. I got them some borax, and we decided to do 40ppm (borax can be hard to find sometimes, and 40ppm took ten boxes!). Keeping up with the chlorine and such. I brush it when I'm there, but I'm fairly sure Dad doesn't. Oh well, can't win them all. He...

I'm losing on average about an inch a day, from a relatively small pool. Gotta love that Vegas heat!

My ex (good terms) comes over to swim fairly often, and her running joke/compliment, especially when other people are around, is to look at the pool and go, "Is there even water in it?" "Yes, it's always filled up Meg." "Oh ok, I couldn't tell, it's so clean! ;) " And I smirk, and she grins...

Poolcalc said baking soda would minimally impact pH; I put 750 oz of baking soda in a 40k gal pool in poolcalc, and it said pH would only move by 0.17 or something. Was it missing a decimal place or two?

Nevermind, 6.8 is safe enough for the nonce. Aerate if you can, and if your TA really is 10ppm, budget for some baking soda...like 750 oz of it!

pH tests can't be trusted when the FC is very high. Wait for it to come down to 10 or less. And whatever you do, don't use anything that will add CYA! You're at such a nice number right now, it'd be a shame to spike it and make life harder and more expensive.

I hope that amount was 2 cups. Because my 6000gal pool took 3 cups to get to 30ppm, so your pool should take just 2 cups to get to the same place.

Update: Drained, scrubbed, unscrewed the returns (and fixed one), unscrewed the fiber optic lighting fixtures and pulled out....something organic....and growing..... Refilled, and conveniently, at the 16000gal estimate, his pool needs 4lbs of CYA. Walmart sells a bottle of CYA that...

This, minus the sprinkler bit.

I propose KICK. Keep It Cheap, Kids. Because in reality, that's what BBB is really doing.

Use rock salt shells! Add salt to water, salt the duck, and (maybe) not hurt the liner! http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 318AAydHIj

Rubber snakes solved my pigeons-drinking-and-crapping-on-the-edge problem! YMMV.

Understood. Las Vegas is pretty safe AFAICT. Foreclosures around here routinely leave empty pools for months. Never seen one float (that's gotta be something to see!).

Current pic!

Well, as seen here - bought-a-foreclosure-fixing-pool-t43056.html - I reset and went BBB with mine own pool, and everything has turned out terrific! So, on to a bigger challenge...my parents' pool! They have an IG plaster (smooth, not gunite) by Blue Haven, 15000-16000 gallons depending on how...

I finally added (3) 76oz boxes of Borax to my pool, and the appropriate amount of acid, and my little 6000gal pool looks awesome! 32ppm is fine, unless I just happen to see a couple more boxes... :twisted:

Easily. You'd blow that much in extra chlorine just trying to shock your pool ONCE.

Just a note, but my pool is half your size. I only have 30-40ppm CYA. To go from zero FC to FOUR...I need 50oz of 6% bleach. So I think your math is off a bit - you shouldn't be able to get to FC 7 in a 12kgal pool with 96oz of 6% bleach, especially at 100+ CYA. As everyone else has...

Installed new weir the other day; it really does seem to help! Also, checked numbers last night, and it was finally time - borates! Did half the acid first, then half the borax, then the other halves. Only took it to 32ppm of borates, but the water definitely looks and feels different! Now...

I know how you feel - I'm in Las Vegas, and it gets Hades-hot here too! My water temp is only at about 82 (but with the solar heater running for the day, it hits 88-90, and OMG, it's so nice to swim in!). My plaster on my pool is in rougher shape than I'd like, but friends and guests are blown...

Yup, flying saucer does the trick. Le sigh. For some reason, i really wanted a twinkie. Oh well, now to find a new weir, and I should replace the basket at some point.

The amount it calls for sounds right. My pool is 6000gal, and to go from 0 to 30 was 3 cups by volume. I thought I had a low reading, and that maybe the pool calc was finally wrong on something, so added another cup after a week. Nope, I'm a dumbass, and now I have 40ppm CYA. :oops:

I don't have fly-by poopers, but I do have pigeons that think just one end of my pool is the perfect place to drink from said pool, and defecate. I bought rubber toy snakes, and placed them in conspicuous (read: looks like they're sunning) areas around that end of the pool... no new poop...

Yeah, that's a vacuum port, used for certain kinds of automated cleaner things IIRC.

Re: Cost of treating a swamp vs dumping water and starting a For reference, my pool is 6000gal. The little pump from Home Depot cleared my pool in less than three hours, and I filled it with the built-in spout and a garden hose in less than four (and then overflowed it a bit by accident and...

Just had to make sure that part was corrected...

Ok, I verified the main drain is connected to the skimmer, via the hole that has no flow (put my vacuum hose in the pump hole, other end in the main drain hole, and the drain started slowly gathering stuff on the bottom. The pump also complained a bit, so I didn't leave it, but it was a simple...

I appreciate your concern. I've worked with and handled scary chemicals a fair bit, usually in a cleanroom/lab situation. I'm ok with normal-scary stuff (but not crazy-scary stuff, like http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/things_i_wont_work_with/. As it is, I found the 31.45% at the pool...

Ok, so the one not pulling obviously goes to the main drain, if it goes anywhere. The one that pulls is obviously to the pump then! I currently have no diverter plate or anything. The skimmer has two holes, and a skimmer basket. That's it. There is only one pipe coming from pool to pump...