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    Vacanza Series Borate/Epsom Salt questions

    Does anyone know anything about the fragrance/moisturizers added to the product http://www.proteampoolcare.com/index.php/products/spa/gentle-spa/ I e-mailed them but figured I might be able to get an answer quicker from here possibly. I think I'm a bit sensitive to scents as many times I've...
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    Vacanza Series Borate/Epsom Salt questions

    I have a Vacanza Series spa and e-mailed the manufacturer e-mail that's in the owners manual asking if I could use Borate/Epsom salt and how much if so. They said if its not in the manual that it would void the warranty. Is there really any way for them to tell if I make sure its drained...
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    Veryifying plans

    Well they use a test kit that looks much like the FAS-DPD...of course I don't know what kind it is so it might not be as good. CYA can't be measured more precisely? 30-100? That means the measurement for it isn't even precise with a good kit. Hmm I'm not sure what size the bottles used for...
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    Veryifying plans

    Good to know I guess I have to do 20 just for a test than..wish the tests were more precise. I thought the kits you could buy were similar to the ones the pool stores use? One of the kit is a Leslies kit I thought..
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    Veryifying plans

    Just want to verify how much pH will lower with CYA. I'm probably going to start with 10 CYA to test how fast we lose it because I still have one verified leak we aren't quite ready to fix until fall/winter at the earliest. If it doesn't lose too much after a week we'll probably up the number...
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    Using up Trichlor I know I know..don't have that much

    0 I'm using 2 pool misters/coolers to cool the pool which will raise pH. I suppose it won't raise the TA, but if that gets too low I can raise it if needed right? I had a leak that got rid of all the CYA. We fixed the two leaks we had...I think air bubbles are coming out of the return that...
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    Using up Trichlor I know I know..don't have that much

    Anyway I don't want to let them go to waste and I'm not going to sell them to someone. http://www.intheswim.com/Pool-Chemicals ... e-Tablets/ This says 25 tabs per 10000 or 55 tabs basically for my 22000 gallon pool. Does this sound accurate? It doesn't mention if thats with a certain CYA...
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    Lowering pH while adding CYA and shocking

    How fast will the Trichlor lower pH without anything aiding it? It depends on how much Trichlor I have to use I guess...so I guess there isn't a way to know. Guess I'll just have to monitor it with the strips and see if its going down too fast or not enough. If I use Dry acid to lower the pH...
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    Lowering pH while adding CYA and shocking

    No fresh plaster. Why that question did I say something that made it sound like I might have freshly applied plaster? The leaks? They were in the pipes. One behind the skimmer nearest to the pump and one behind the return that is near that. FC is 0 pH 8.0 TA is 100-140 Its hard to tell I...
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    Lowering pH while adding CYA and shocking

    I need to lower the pH add CYA and shock because of algae due to not using chlorine because of 2 major leaks. I got the leaks fixed and now I need to adjust. The pH is 8.0 because of the fill waters pH. I need to get the CYA to 30 and I'm not sure where I should lower the pH to. I have two...
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    Adding D.E. After cleaning

    Well the filter recommendation is 6 pounds so I guess I would still be off by a decent amount. You have a point. 15 was what the starting clean pressure was after my brother backwashed. I backwashed it again and it was down to 9 again. I think he just didn't backwash it long enough or at...
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    Adding D.E. After cleaning

    Makes sense. Doing 7-10 like we were had the returns with barely any pressure and the suction was much less too. Therefore the filtering capacity would be quite a bit less. I wonder how they came up with the 7-10 psi amount. My clean pressure is 9 so 25% is 11.25. I weighed the scoop and it...
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    Adding D.E. After cleaning

    Well he didn't weight it out. He said he was adding 9 pounds. It was 9 scoops worth. If it wasn't packed well it could have been less. If clumping at the bottom is normal than he probably didn't add too much just thinking of possible reasons why its requiring more cleaning. I've seen that...
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    Adding D.E. After cleaning

    The pressure went up to clean pressure that many times. The cleaner we are using would stop working and the return jets weren't putting out all that much pressure. So we backwashed it. I was under the impression that if the pressure stayed up it needed a manual cleaning. I backwashed again...
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    Adding D.E. After cleaning

    Pressure wash is all. Its been less than a week and the grids didn't look like they had build up. I can't imagine there would be any kind of buildup in less than a week. They were just plain white after I cleaned them. No chalky texture.
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    Adding D.E. After cleaning

    It ran at 10 when the guy first installed and added fresh DE. I figured after cleaning the grids manually and adding DE it would be back to 10. We backwashed a few times without adding DE because we didn't have any at the time. Each time the pressure went back to 10. After about four...
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    Adding D.E. After cleaning

    Why would the clean pressure be 15 now when before it was 10? That seems like quite a bit. I guess as long as it actually works right at a higher pressure its fine...haven't had a chance to see if its working right so maybe its fine. Just heard about the 15, and figured it would be back to...
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    Adding D.E. After cleaning

    Cleaned it reassembled and added 6 pounds DE per instructions in the filter manual and the pressure started at 15. I'm so confused.....I figured doing a manual cleaning would remove whatever was causing the pressure to be above the clean pressure on start of 10 :(
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    Adding D.E. After cleaning

    I guess we'll add the DE and see what happens. So could you explain how to add DE real quick just to make sure I'm clear on doing it correctly. Thanks
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    Adding D.E. After cleaning

    So this is our first time with a D.E. filter, and I think we put everything back together correctly. The thing is when we turned it on to see if anything was leaking and it was running right the pressure was going from 7-10 and back to 7. Is this normal behavior for the filter guage until you...
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    Use and care for DE filters

    I'm clear on my plan of action than thanks for the clarification.
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    Use and care for DE filters

    My brother would rather just add D.E. and backwash again until the pool clears. I think its a better idea to clean it first since the starting pressure is up to 15 from 10. The pressure being higher means there is stuff inside that needs to be cleaned and it won't filter as well without a...
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    Use and care for DE filters

    I'm aware I'm supposed to add some back. I'll make sure to do so after we clean it. Just wanted to make sure to get the proper amount to add. Since we are going to need to open it up and clean it I guess we are going to be started from 0 and so will add the 6 pounds. I'll make sure to send...
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    Use and care for DE filters

    If I understand everything correctly after backwashing if the filter pressure is higher than the normal clean pressure than it needs a manual cleaning of the grids. I also read that it can damage the grids if you run without any D.E. How do you tell if there is D.E. or not? Can you tell...
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    TA creepin up fast, how to aerate?

    Pool details in a sig is really helpful as outlined in that link. pool-school/read_before_you_post This might help people help you in the future so people don't have to read other threads to get your pool details :) Full test results in your first post is also a good idea if your problem has...
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    Aerating pH rise using return jets

    The last reliable TA test I had was 110 which is a bit high, but the Trichlor will lower that right? The CH is on the lower end at the moment. The CYA is at 25 and I have a leak so the Trichlor is not such a bad thing. Everything else is good. The way I see it because of my leak that isn't...
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    Aerating pH rise using return jets

    Is there anything I can do besides just testing after some random amount of time to figure out how fast the pH rise from aeration is in my pool? I guess that isn't that hard just wondering. I have four returns pointed straight up to Aerate because my balance is good except for my pH at a bit...
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    Glass Pack Filter Media

    What's the difference between Glass Pack and VitroClean. Is it something besides being tested to NSF Standard 50 whatever that is? I'll go look that up because I don't have any clue what that is.