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Success! The new element lets the spa work. Thusly, even though the element superficially looks fine with just minor corrosion, it was the culprit. Bad news too. While installing the element, I noticed a pinhole in the stainless steel heater tube. So, I guess I'm ordering a new complete...

Well, since I just flung a router bit at my leg at 16000 rpm I'll have to take a rain check on the spa for a week or 10 days. The wife will like it though. Thanks for the diagnosis confirmation.

Well, the element looks OK except a bit of rust around the attachment flange outside and inside. And I do mean just a bit. I assume even a small flaw that might not register on my digital multimeter might trigger the GFCI. At any rate, I've got a new element on order and I figure I should...

I disconnected the element and the symptom went away. Reading the Spaguts website, they mentioned that elements can trip GFCIs. I ordered a new element. Only $50, so a fairly cheap gamble. The element Ohms out OK, but the rust is a tale tell as well. I still might need to replace my...

Add'l info: I unplugged the pump and built a jumper cable and ran the pump separately. Works well on high and low speed and does not trip the GFCI (Yes, I did use a ground so the GFCI would work if a fault was detected). Spa still trips GFCI. Presumable when it kicks in the heater/pump...

Keeps poping the GFCI. Used to be kind of random just before we shut it down for the summer. Now at fall start up its toast and I need to figure out what to do. Seems to pop off when the pump is started manually. But that is based on little evidence and since its raining right now, I...

Todays update: The liner is gone as well as the liner track. Not too bad. Is it normal for the liner to be brittle? Pretty much just cracked into large chunks. Its now in nice trashcan sized pieces. Don't think it can be recycled, so to the landfill it goes? New questions? Is this much...

Thanks for the advise. I was able to find one distributor. 8 feet at $10, so not too bad. Took a bit of looking though. APC looks like its mostly for the trade, but I can give them a call in the next couple of days. Don't know if they do retail. A follow-on question on the track. What...

To recap, here is the pool in question. The liner is due to be replaced and the previous owner concreted over the automatic cover opening. Also, the original coping was set on a course of brick to increase its height which makes no sense. Also, the coping was mortared to the bond beam and...

Thanks for the info. Follow-up questions... 1) Do you have a good source for us DIYers? 2) Would you still recommend aluminum for a salt pool? 3) The pool wall is concrete block. Do you have a recommended fastener? I might be raising the wall a couple of inches with poured concrete, so...

Its climbable. Basically needs to be full panel or vertical bars.

I need to replace the liner track on my in-ground pool and am not finding much in the way of on-line suppliers. Since I'm replacing the coping, a top mount track is my expectation. Also, does anyone have opinions on whether aluminum track or plastic track is the way to go. The existing...

I used 8 foot long steel fencing sections from Lowes. Its available with either bolt down posts for the pool deck or you dig holes like conventional fencing. Its almond color and not unattractive at all. Check with your building department for building code issues. You should not just put...

Bama is right about the stainless and the brass. Stainless will gall and they will be stuck forever. They would also cost a fortune in stainless. If the sleeves and screws are cleaned at opening and at closing and properly lubricated with silicone grease, they will be just fine most of the...

I've been looking at videos of how to install the cast coping with foam forms and the vibrator is the way to go. The HF model is less than $100. I would also need a concrete mixer which is about the same. Cheap relative to the cost of labor and I can sell after the job. I would have to make...

I did a little archeology yesterday. I'll get pictures today if I can. It looks like the top of the pool wall is 6" thick. It also looks like chipping off the mortar that hold on the brick and coping will pop right up. It also looks like I have two options. Balance the coping on the 6"...

Thanks for the picture. Your pool looks very nice. I do know that the deck and pool need to float relative to each other. The pool builder, however, did not as far as I can tell. We don't get frost heave here and the soil is apparently fairly stable though. Once we do the archeology, we...

Well, if I had read your signature... :oops: This is intriguing. I'll admit a bit of ignorance regarding the water tightness of concrete products. You don't get any leaking of water through the block or behind the liner track, especially at the mortar joints? Got any more pictures...

The pool vertical walls are definitely concrete. I can see it through the tear in the liner and I can see a portion of the top where the pool cover was filled in with concrete. I do not really know if it would be called a bond beam or not as I cannot evaluate its thickness yet. The original...

As a minimum, the liner will be replaced. As a minimum, I must at least repair the bad concrete with some new coping. I would prefer to replace the coping as I'd rather not tuck point everything. I've tuckpointed other things before. Not fun. The light and main drain are just wishes...

All, thanks for the hellos. The cacti are gone. I used a hatchet and BBQ tongs directly into the waste bin. I tried to get the local desert planters to take them, but they were unwanted. We lost too many pool toys to the cacti. Blow ups don't like 'em, neither did the plush toys. Now I...

I have to replace my liner and now is the best time to some required maintainance and I have a lot of questions. I am a DIYer, so this will be all my own labor. The pool a bit more than 20 years old and I inherited with the house. If I were building new, it would probably look a lot...

How about an Intro? I bought the TF-100 test kit a year ago so I figured I had registered on this forum, but I guess not since the registration took my e-mail address. I have a 25000 gallon 18 x 36 vinyl liner pool I inherited when I bought this house 4 years about. When I bought it, the...

Auto parts stores, home depot, the usual places. The 3-1 should work just about as well. Penetrating oils need a bit of time to penetrate. Make sure you are getting it in the crevice between the screw and the housing. Since gravity is on your side, I prefer a liquid as opposed to a spray...

I have a solid loop-loc with the center mesh panel. For my area (not a lot of rain, not too many leaves, lots of sunshine and no winter freeze) it seems the best choice. Regarding tools: A hammer drill is not designed for the large diameter holes you need. You need arotary hammer. I just...

Looploc cover anchors? Suggestions: First suggestion is that you properly clean and lube spring and fall, but that don't help you now. I would liberally spray or lube with something like PB blaster (better than wd-40) and then wait a while for it to soak in. The soaking in is important...

No problems. I do have a half-arse patch on it now, mostly to keep the split from spreading. I only have a few weeks left in the season and I'll be in Australia for half that time. Now that we have established that I need a new liner, shall I do in now, in the fall, or wait for spring. I...

Here is a shot of the tear in my pool liner. Notice the general state of decay as well. The area near the bead is discolored. This is the north east corner which gets the most sun. The rest of the liner is somewhat faded and some minor staining at the water line. Anyone want to hazard a guess as...