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synapsid

synapsid

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Hi there,

I have an AGP that’s 4’ deep but we dug down 2’ and backfilled around it. We installed it last year and ran out of money and patience to build a deck or surround and entry. Now we are looking at doing a stone wall around the pool with steps to enter and a ladder to exit. I’ve no doubt the mason will do good work. My question, however, is this: once my AGP is walled up, entombed, shall we say, in rock, what if the liner or the supports break? They would be inaccessible from the outside. Anyone have experience with this?
 
Does your AGP have steel walls or resin walls?
 
If it came in a big roll it is most likely metal of some sort. The resin walls come as panels. Please share the brand of your pool so we can know for sure.

The reason this question is so important is the steel walls will rust over time. It might be a LONG time but they will rust out in the end. As such you will not want to "wall it in" as replacing it will be almost impossible. If the walls are resin the chances of them lasting for almost forever is greater.
 
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Thank you Kimkats!

Well I'll be...i looked it up and my pool, the "all resin" Olympus, actually has a "copper bearing alloy wall." It feels like plastic but I guess that is just a veneer over a roll of steel alloy.

Here is the link of the company where I bought it; if you scroll down you can see the fine print with the Olympus model.
pools.islandrecreational.com

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pools.islandrecreational.com

It's already well established that I did not do the correct amount and type of homework before getting to this point. But I just keep proving it.

Knowing now that it's metal, what would be be a good course of action for the entry? Should I build a wooden deck up to the edge?

Thanks again!
 
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synapsid said:
Knowing now that it's metal, what would be be a good course of action for the entry? Should I build a wooden deck up to the edge?
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I wouldn't worry about it either way. Pools that can be buried (or partially) are typically better quality. They're still susceptible to a liner leak of course, but the ground likely won't be an issue.
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what if the liner or the supports break? They would be inaccessible from the outside.
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If it's a beaded liner it'll be easily replacable. I would replace it at the first thought of any issues down the road, helping my chances it never leaked.
 
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kimkats said:
I would build a nice, big wood deck around at least 1/4 of the pool. If you are able I would deck the whole side by the house and enjoy it!
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Thanks! I really like the idea, however my wife likes the look of stone much more. I thought I could even do a deck-that's-not-a-deck, more of a ground level decking patio like in this pic below. It will take some convincing but might be easier and cheaper overall.



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I LOVE those. But it won't really help when the time comes to replace the pool. It'll still be a boatload of labor to take the deck apart.
 
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Unless you get the EXACT same pool, and sometimes even not then, it will be HARD to match the pool to the decking. We THOUGHT it would be easy to do. Same size pool with the same number of uprights=should equal putting the uprights where the lasts ones were......................yeah not so much :roll: we had to adjust our deck quite a bit to make it look good and be safe. Cutting some here, adding some there we did get it done.
 
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It looks like you have an overlap liner from your profile pic which means at some point the top rails & top caps will need to come off to change the liner.
I also assume you close this pool for winter & need to cover it.
You need to make provisions in your design for these two things. This may mean leaving a gap &/or having stones/boards that you can remove to accommodate this. Many top caps have screws underneath them that you must access so take that into consideration.
My pool is surrounded by a deck 1/2 way around and we left a little gap to be able to slip the cover & cable in. I can easily do the rest of the threading & tightening of the cable from the side of the pool with no deck. Unfortunately I am unable to access a couple of my top cap’s screws due to some deck supports so I will have to do some deck work to remove the liner when necessary.
I know its too late now but we usually recommend folks who intend to deck all the way around or do something like you mentioned to use a unibead liner that can be replaced without the need to remove top rails & top caps.
In my case it wasn’t an option- the place only offered 1 liner which is overlap. At the time I was kinda dependent upon them since I couldn’t find an independent installer & just buy what I wanted from elsewhere.
If I replace it in the future I would certainly get a unibead liner.
 
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+1 to Mdragger88. A stone wall around the pool might look nice, but it's going to need some kind of foundation and/or a good surface to mount to or it won't last long, and it might make replacing the liner a very complicated task.

I'd stick with the wood decking and, whatever you do, be sure to design it to make servicing the pool in the future as simple as possible.
 
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