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 Post subject: Poolskim review.
PostPosted: August 2nd, 2011, 6:35 pm 
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Hi All,
I've been looking at this device for years and hesitated buying it.

I have a black locust tree near my pool which is absolutely beautiful BUT it is the messiest **** thing ever. Little tiny brown leaves everywhere. It just so happens the one area of my pool is kind of a dead zone. Leaves just collect on the surface and sit there. After a while they get waterlogged and fall to the bottom. Tired of the maintenance I figured I'll drop the $100 and see if this thing works. It arrived quickly and took about 15 minutes to install.

I LOVE this thing! It has amazing suction and collects everything that was in the dead area. A true godsend and well worth the $100. I just wish I would have thought of it :)

This is one of those products that just plain works. Its not too obtrusive either and easily removable if necessary. My Blue Diamond gets along with it too.

Joe


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 Post subject: Re: Poolskim review.
PostPosted: August 3rd, 2011, 12:26 pm 
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I have loads of maple trees that drop leaves, helicopters and other nasties. The poolskim is the BEST thing that has happened to me! I, too, love mine and am glad I found it. You're right, it is the BEST $100 I have spent for my pool!



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 Post subject: Re: Poolskim review.
PostPosted: August 3rd, 2011, 4:59 pm 
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+1 on the Poolskim. Fantastic device.

I have 2 skimmers which didn't work too well with a low flow pump. On grass cut days, tons of grass clippings would be floating on the surface of the pool, and many would sink to the bottom and litter the bottom of the pool. Not to mention the leaves, flowers, seeds, etc. from multiple trees surrounding the pool. Now with the Poolskim, the surface of the pool is practically debris free, and therefore the floor of the pool is much much cleaner as well. All the stuff is in the Poolskim!



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PostPosted: August 26th, 2011, 3:20 pm 
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Just to add to this, I recently got a Poolskim and am equally pleased with it. It has vastly cut down on the amount of time I have to spend manually skimming. The Poolskim works much, MUCH better than the actual skimmer on my pool. Once the pump has been running for a while, the surface is pretty much totally clean even in my somewhat odd "S-shaped" pool, which has corners that don't get much circulation.

I did find that the unit needs a decent level of inlet flow in order to function up to its full potential, and that the better you can get overall circulation working, the faster it will work. In my case this meant limiting the flow from my other three inlets, and controlling their direction at the same time.

I found that rather than using the little "inlet limiters" that come with the unit, I had much more success by swapping out my eyeball jets for the "slotted" type. These have slots along the side of the ball rather than a hole in the middle, which has two effects on the flow. First, they reduce the flow quite a bit, and you can adjust the amount by turning the ball so that more or less of the slot is exposed. This of course directs more flow to the Poolskim inlet. Second, the slotted jets can redirect the flow a full 90 degrees so that it's directly along wall rather than out into the pool. This is MUCH more effective for creating a rotational circulation in the pool, and it induces stronger flow right along the wall where debris will sometimes hang out. This in turn causes surface debris to make it's sway to the Poolskim (or the pool's skimmer) much more quickly.

I tried the eyeball jets with smaller holes at first, but even when turned as far sideways as possible, these still directed the flow away from the wall, which didn't induce enough circulation where I needed it. The slotted eyeball jets made a dramatic improvement in this regard, and pretty much solved this problem.

I highly recommend the Poolskim, as well as the slotted eyeball jets.

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PostPosted: August 26th, 2011, 5:50 pm 
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lalittle wrote:
I found that rather than using the little "inlet limiters" that come with the unit, I had much more success by swapping out my eyeball jets for the "slotted" type. These have slots along the side of the ball rather than a hole in the middle, which has two effects on the flow. First, they reduce the flow quite a bit, and you can adjust the amount by turning the ball so that more or less of the slot is exposed. This of course directs more flow to the Poolskim inlet. Second, the slotted jets can redirect the flow a full 90 degrees so that it's directly along wall rather than out into the pool. This is MUCH more effective for creating a rotational circulation in the pool, and it induces stronger flow right along the wall where debris will sometimes hang out. This in turn causes surface debris to make it's sway to the Poolskim (or the pool's skimmer) much more quickly.

I tried the eyeball jets with smaller holes at first, but even when turned as far sideways as possible, these still directed the flow away from the wall, which didn't induce enough circulation where I needed it. The slotted eyeball jets made a dramatic improvement in this regard, and pretty much solved this problem.

I highly recommend the Poolskim, as well as the slotted eyeball jets.

Larry


Can you possibly post a pic of this slotted eye ball, or where to get one? I haven't seen them at the pool stores, and I am getting some debris stuck on the walls like you said despite a completely clear pool surface with the pool skim.



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 Post subject: Re: Poolskim review.
PostPosted: August 26th, 2011, 8:11 pm 
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Beezar they look like this and here is one place they are available...http://www.amazon.com/Hayward-Direction ... B0038A8LEQ


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PostPosted: August 27th, 2011, 3:16 am 
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beezar wrote:
Can you possibly post a pic of this slotted eye ball, or where to get one? I haven't seen them at the pool stores, and I am getting some debris stuck on the walls like you said despite a completely clear pool surface with the pool skim.


It looks like fsteve65 beat me to it. The picture he posted is what I'm referring to, except that I got the Pentair version, which does not have the little symbol on the flat part (it's just flat and smooth in that spot.) The reason I opted for the Pentair is because it is offered in dark gray instead of the light grey that Hayward offers. The dark grey is a much better match for my plaster since the light grey ends up looking quite light underwater. My plaster is not very dark, so I originally bought a light grey version thinking it would match, but to my surprise it did not, and I ended up swapping it for a dark grey version.

Some other information that may or may not be useful (which I came across when searching for these) is that the Hayward version appears to be called a "Hydrosweep," as opposed to their normal eyeballs which they call "Hydrostream. The Pentair version is on page 248 of their 2011 catalog (https://www.pentairpartners.com/productcatalog/pdf/PentairPoolProductsCatalog2011_US.pdf), under the "Wall Fittings - Inlets" section. The Pentair part numbers for the slotted eyeballs are:

White - 540000
Black - 540001
Dark Grey - 540002

There also appears to be a number of knockoff versions of these. I'm not entirely clear what (if any) differences there are from one brand to another other than slight cosmetic changes.

Note that the white ones were the easiest to find, both online and at the more robust local pool stores. The grey and dark grey versions, however, took some hunting.

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 Post subject: Re: Poolskim review.
PostPosted: September 11th, 2011, 7:25 pm 
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fsteve65 wrote:
Beezar they look like this and here is one place they are available...http://www.amazon.com/Hayward-Direction ... B0038A8LEQ


So I got the slotted returns and yes, they work great. My pool and the walls of the pool are even cleaner then before!

Still loving the Pool Skim. I tell every pool owner I know to get one even if they don't have many trees/flowers around their pool, because there's just a lot less junk that sinks to the bottom of the pool, and a lot less debris that enters the skimming baskets, meaning less work spent emptying the baskets and possibly less frequent backwashes.

Of course you need to empty the poolskim, but that's a snap.



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 Post subject: Re: Poolskim review.
PostPosted: September 12th, 2011, 3:46 pm 
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beezar wrote:
So I got the slotted returns and yes, they work great. My pool and the walls of the pool are even cleaner then before!

Still loving the Pool Skim. I tell every pool owner I know to get one even if they don't have many trees/flowers around their pool, because there's just a lot less junk that sinks to the bottom of the pool, and a lot less debris that enters the skimming baskets, meaning less work spent emptying the baskets and possibly less frequent backwashes.

Of course you need to empty the poolskim, but that's a snap.


It's great to hear that the slotted returns worked for you. When I first found them and discovered how well they worked, it really surpised me that they weren't more well known.

The overall system that can be created with the slotted jets and the Poolskim really does work remarkably well, and like you, I highly recommend it to people.

Larry


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