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flyboy320
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Post subject: Pool store chemicals to raise TA?  Posted: April 28th, 2010, 7:58 am |
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Joined: July 23rd, 2009, 11:54 am Posts: 209 Location: Burlington, Ontario, Canada
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When my pool builder built my pool last year, he left me with a few pails of "pool store" chemicals. On testing my pool when I opened it last week, the TA is around 50-60 and would like to raise it to the recommended levels here at TFP to about 70 (or should I just leave it as is?).
The pail from the pool builder is called "Buffer", and it says it's used "to increase TA of pools", and it's made by Mursatt Chemicals. It doesn't mention if it also raises the PH as well.
So my two questions are;
1. Should I try and raise the TA or is it OK at 50-60 (my PH seems stable enough, usually around 7.5)
2. Do you think I should be careful when adding it, in case it increases the PH as well?
_________________ 10K gal IG, vinyl, 1 HP Jandy Stealth pump, Jandy CS cartridge filter, Delta UV system, Hasa Liquidator
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frustratedpoolmom
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Post subject: Re: Pool store chemicals to raise TA?  Posted: April 28th, 2010, 8:06 am |
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Joined: May 20th, 2007, 2:59 pm Posts: 11039 Location: SWSuburban Chicago, IL
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Does it say what the active ingredient is? Its probably soda ash which will raise both.
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flyboy320
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Post subject:  Posted: April 28th, 2010, 10:45 am |
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Joined: July 23rd, 2009, 11:54 am Posts: 209 Location: Burlington, Ontario, Canada
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I looked all over the container, but it doesn't mention the ingredients... I'll follow John's advice and keep an eye on my PH levels, and if they don't change much, I won't bother playing with the TA.
_________________ 10K gal IG, vinyl, 1 HP Jandy Stealth pump, Jandy CS cartridge filter, Delta UV system, Hasa Liquidator
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derekm
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Post subject: Re:  Posted: April 28th, 2010, 11:03 am |
Joined: August 17th, 2007, 5:33 am Posts: 48 Location: Eastern Canada
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flyboy320 wrote: I looked all over the container, but it doesn't mention the ingredients... Our local dealer also sells Mursatt. Buffer is definitely baking soda/sodium bicarbonate. Here is the MSDS for Mursatt "Buffer": http://www.mursattchemicals.com/pdf/buffer.pdfThe MSDS notes that it is also useful as a "Leavening agent, cleaner ingredient, bath salt ingredient, water softener, diaper rinse ingredient, feed additive."! For final proof, here is an identical MSDS, for baking soda: http://www.hillbrothers.com/msds/pdf/n/sodium-bicarb-pool.pdf
_________________ 18X36' 25000 gal Jacuzzi vinyl Inground Pool (1985) with newer Jacuzzi 1 hp two-speed pump. Wooden deck. Raypak propane heater, Rainbow 320 chlorinator (mostly use bleach). Softtub 220 portable hot tub.
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mart242
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Post subject: Re: Pool store chemicals to raise TA?  Posted: May 7th, 2010, 10:24 pm |
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Joined: May 3rd, 2010, 11:43 am Posts: 147 Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada
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I've just stumbled on this thread.. after buying two pails of "Buffer" from the pool store to get my pool going. At $27 for 8kg of the stuff (and I needed 2 x 8kg), I guess it would have been cheaper to buy baking soda directly in bulk?
_________________ 19.5k gallons in ground, P4 panel with turbocell SWG, 1hp Hayward superpump II, sand filter, Heater low nox 250k btu heater, solar cover on rocky roller
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Richard320
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Post subject: Re: Pool store chemicals to raise TA?  Posted: May 7th, 2010, 10:26 pm |
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Joined: January 6th, 2010, 10:54 am Posts: 2477 Location: San Dimas, CA (LA County)
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mart242 wrote: I've just stumbled on this thread.. after buying two pails of "Buffer" from the pool store to get my pool going. At $27 for 8kg of the stuff (and I needed 2 x 8kg), I guess it would have been cheaper to buy baking soda directly in bulk? But if you bought it at Costco or somewhere cheap like that, you wouldn't get those swell pails.
_________________ 16K freeform gunite with spa; Pentair 4000 DE filter; Century Whisperflow 1 HP; Pentair Minimax heater.
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