|
It is currently May 23rd, 2013, 2:39 am
|
 |
|
 |
|
| Author |
Message |
|
jp4120
|
Post subject: Pool Frog question/opinions  Posted: May 11th, 2012, 6:00 pm |
Joined: May 11th, 2012, 5:44 pm Posts: 50
|
|
Hi I have been using the frog system for 14 years. replace the mineral pack every year, pool season is about 4.5 mths long. some staining over the years, some algea occasionally. But I add chlorine powder (Leslies power powder plus usually about every 3 to 5 days depending on the weather) in addition to the Frog tablet insertsI overall fairly satisfied but wondering if I should continue this or switch to BBB or if I could be asking for trouble after this long using the frog system..(I hate paying $110 for the mineral insert (current price) and another $100 for 6 inserts that last 8 to 10 days each) need some expert opinions.....thx
_________________ 26K gal, plaster, 16 years old, raised attached spa - 1 1/2 HP purex triton pump, brand new 48 sq ft Pentair DE filter with multiport, Polaris 380 w/pump, Raypac propane heater (hardly use) - all original except Polaris pump & Pentair filter - live in eastern PA
|
|
|
|
 |
|
zea3
|
Post subject: Re: Pool Frog question/opinions  Posted: May 11th, 2012, 6:39 pm |
| Mod Squad |
 |
 |
Joined: July 10th, 2009, 3:08 pm Posts: 3179 Location: Upper Texas Coast
|
|
Hi, welcome to TFP! We have quite a few members who converted to the bbb method after using pool frog and other mineral based systems, it is not difficult to do. BBB is all about accurate testing and keeping the water balanced. If you could post a complete set of recent test results. (FC, TA,pH,CH,CYA) we can tell you what you would need to do to get started.
_________________ TFP Moderator Helpful links: TF Test Kits,TFP Pool School, Pool Calculator Vogue 21" round AG, Pentair 1 hp 2 speed pump, 36 sq ft DE filter, Upper Texas Coast
|
|
|
|
 |
|
jp4120
|
Post subject: Re: Pool Frog question/opinions  Posted: May 12th, 2012, 6:18 am |
Joined: May 11th, 2012, 5:44 pm Posts: 50
|
|
But after testing (depending on results) - should I use liquid chlorine or household bleach? - do i need some type of tabular chlorine to replace the frog insert? or do I just add some liquid chlorine every 3 days (for example) and only use a frog insert (with tabs) when i am going to be on vacation for more than a few days.....
_________________ 26K gal, plaster, 16 years old, raised attached spa - 1 1/2 HP purex triton pump, brand new 48 sq ft Pentair DE filter with multiport, Polaris 380 w/pump, Raypac propane heater (hardly use) - all original except Polaris pump & Pentair filter - live in eastern PA
|
|
|
|
 |
|
JasonLion
|
Post subject: Re: Pool Frog question/opinions  Posted: May 12th, 2012, 6:26 am |
| Site Admin |
 |
 |
Joined: May 7th, 2007, 3:03 pm Posts: 28090 Location: Silver Spring, MD
|
|
The key is measuring your levels and adding what needs to be added.
Liquid chlorine vs bleach - which ever is less expensive or more convent for you.
No, stay away from the chlorine tablets, except for vacations.
_________________ 19K gal, vinyl, 1/2 HP WhisperFlo pump, 200 sqft cartridge filter, AutoPilot Digital SWG, Dolphin Dynamic cleaning robot TFP Admin. Creator of The Pool Calculator. Other handy links: Support this site, TF Test Kits, Pool School
|
|
|
|
 |
|
jp4120
|
Post subject: Re: Pool Frog question/opinions  Posted: May 13th, 2012, 11:14 am |
Joined: May 11th, 2012, 5:44 pm Posts: 50
|
|
so to summarize - no need to replace the Frog mineral insert (nobody is sure what it actually does - its probably like using nothing?) - no need to replace the Frog tab inserts (keep around when your pool is open if you are away for a week or so) - test using a recommended test kit - adding chemicals via the BBB method - use liquid chlorine or bleach as needed (probably every 2 or 3 days) - but if its easier use powder like Leslie's power powder plus
just want to confirm my assumptions about the Frog mineral insert....over the years my water quality has been good, and occasional algae late in the summer... but don't want to waste $110 if its not needed.
my pool is in ground 600 sq ft (approx 30,000 gallons) - with a raised 10 foot diameter spa.
_________________ 26K gal, plaster, 16 years old, raised attached spa - 1 1/2 HP purex triton pump, brand new 48 sq ft Pentair DE filter with multiport, Polaris 380 w/pump, Raypac propane heater (hardly use) - all original except Polaris pump & Pentair filter - live in eastern PA
|
|
|
|
 |
|
JasonLion
|
Post subject: Re: Pool Frog question/opinions  Posted: May 13th, 2012, 11:22 am |
| Site Admin |
 |
 |
Joined: May 7th, 2007, 3:03 pm Posts: 28090 Location: Silver Spring, MD
|
|
The frog mineral pack is adding metals to the water. If you are maintaing appropriate FC levels it serves no purpose and it runs some risk of unsightly stains.
_________________ 19K gal, vinyl, 1/2 HP WhisperFlo pump, 200 sqft cartridge filter, AutoPilot Digital SWG, Dolphin Dynamic cleaning robot TFP Admin. Creator of The Pool Calculator. Other handy links: Support this site, TF Test Kits, Pool School
|
|
|
|
 |
|
jp4120
|
Post subject: Re: Pool Frog question/opinions  Posted: May 13th, 2012, 7:48 pm |
Joined: May 11th, 2012, 5:44 pm Posts: 50
|
|
good to know about the frog mineral pack...have had stains crop up over the years.....some still there that Jacks and that vitamin C tabs did not remove. (I will search the forum for stain removal suggestions) referring to the calcium added by Leslie's power powder plus...I have had some scaling, usually can brush or in worse case pumice away..(I guess pumice not good since you are sanding away the plaster)
is there a better powder that is as strong ? or is this why the recommended method is to use liquid chlorine/bleach?
thanks for the tips.
_________________ 26K gal, plaster, 16 years old, raised attached spa - 1 1/2 HP purex triton pump, brand new 48 sq ft Pentair DE filter with multiport, Polaris 380 w/pump, Raypac propane heater (hardly use) - all original except Polaris pump & Pentair filter - live in eastern PA
|
|
|
|
 |
|
JasonLion
|
Post subject: Re: Pool Frog question/opinions  Posted: May 13th, 2012, 8:36 pm |
| Site Admin |
 |
 |
Joined: May 7th, 2007, 3:03 pm Posts: 28090 Location: Silver Spring, MD
|
|
Yea, that is basically it. Every other form of chlorine adds something you don't always want to the pool.
_________________ 19K gal, vinyl, 1/2 HP WhisperFlo pump, 200 sqft cartridge filter, AutoPilot Digital SWG, Dolphin Dynamic cleaning robot TFP Admin. Creator of The Pool Calculator. Other handy links: Support this site, TF Test Kits, Pool School
|
|
|
|
 |
|
|
 |
|
 |
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot post attachments in this forum
|
|