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 Post subject: NEW Jandy Aqua Pure 1400 geting Codes 181, 172,Service light
PostPosted: August 15th, 2011, 7:38 pm 
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Hi Every one,
First off I want to say hello to every one as I am new to the forum.

I am in a pickle here and I have tried every thing I can think of.
and so fare nothing has worked.

Specs:
20,000 Gal Salt Pool
Jandy Aqua Pure 1400 with 3 Port Cell
Wired up for 240VAC

I have just installed a brand New System:
http://www.poolsupplyworld.com/poolsupp ... RE1400.htm

And I am still getting Error codes 181 & 172.
I get The "Service" Light on all the time and sometimes the "Cell Reversing" light too.
I am not getting "Flow" or "Cell On" at all.

The Sensor is giving me the 3 normal readings from the wall unit but also Code 181.

checked the VAC but still getting code 172.

I am at a loss because my old System that was A Chromatic 301 2 Port cell system gave me the same readings.
I spent almost $900 to replace that 7+ years system to remedy this but, i am still getting the same problems.
I have replaced the entire wall unit, Cell, sensor and DC cord. I have checked my VAC and it is at the needed
Voltage for the system which is 240V

Any help would be greatly appreciated as My pool is starting to go green and I am having to manually through
Chlorine in the pool and Shock the pool every week. This has been an ongoing problem for a month now.


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 Post subject: Re: NEW Jandy Aqua Pure 1400 geting Codes 181, 172,Service l
PostPosted: August 15th, 2011, 7:51 pm 
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You should have either 120VAC or 240VAC. You can't have 120-240VAC. Have you measured with a meter to see what you have?



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 Post subject: Re: NEW Jandy Aqua Pure 1400 geting Codes 181, 172,Service l
PostPosted: August 15th, 2011, 7:52 pm 
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jsw5620 wrote:
You should have either 120VAC or 240VAC. You can't have 120-240VAC. Have you measured with a meter to see what you have?


I have 240 sorry.


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 Post subject: Re: NEW Jandy Aqua Pure 1400 geting Codes 181, 172,Service l
PostPosted: August 15th, 2011, 8:01 pm 
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Per the online manual

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Factory wired for 240 VAC service. If available electrical service is 120 VAC, the power supply
wiring must be changed to operate on 120 VAC as shown in the wiring diagram below. (Figure 2.)



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 Post subject: Re: NEW Jandy Aqua Pure 1400 geting Codes 181, 172,Service l
PostPosted: August 15th, 2011, 8:05 pm 
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All these codes seam to point to the flow sensor but this is A brand new one.
Is there a way to test the sensor of it is defective?
I tried both the old cell and the new one, Both 3 port Cells. I see no deference there
so i am sure both of them are good. I checked all the connections to the Boards and all look well secured.
The unit must be getting power as the "On" light is on.


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 Post subject: Re: NEW Jandy Aqua Pure 1400 geting Codes 181, 172,Service l
PostPosted: August 15th, 2011, 8:07 pm 
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Did you rewire the unit for 120VAC like the manual says?



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 Post subject: Re: NEW Jandy Aqua Pure 1400 geting Codes 181, 172,Service l
PostPosted: August 15th, 2011, 8:10 pm 
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Make sure the wiring is like the diagram on page 7, figure 2 in this link

http://contentr.poolsupplyworld.com/wpdf/jandyaquapuremanual.pdf



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 Post subject: Re: NEW Jandy Aqua Pure 1400 geting Codes 181, 172,Service l
PostPosted: August 15th, 2011, 8:15 pm 
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jsw5620 wrote:
Per the online manual

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Factory wired for 240 VAC service. If available electrical service is 120 VAC, the power supply
wiring must be changed to operate on 120 VAC as shown in the wiring diagram below. (Figure 2.)


Yes I see where this is in the manual. but dis not tell what wire gois to what.

here is how i have it wired:
Black(Wall) to Black(Unit)
Red(Wall) to yellow/black(Unit)

black/red(unit) to black/white(Unit)

How do I rewire for the 120


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 Post subject: Re: NEW Jandy Aqua Pure 1400 geting Codes 181, 172,Service l
PostPosted: August 15th, 2011, 8:20 pm 
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jsw5620 wrote:
Make sure the wiring is like the diagram on page 7, figure 2 in this link

http://contentr.poolsupplyworld.com/wpdf/jandyaquapuremanual.pdf


Seams the older manual is more user friendly.

i will try this rewiring.


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 Post subject: Re: NEW Jandy Aqua Pure 1400 geting Codes 181, 172,Service l
PostPosted: August 15th, 2011, 8:28 pm 
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Are you sure you have 120V there? I may be wrong but I though when you have a black and a red there is 240V and 120V you have a black and white, but I am not an electrician. When you measured with your meter, did you put one lead on the red and one lead on the black?



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 Post subject: Re: NEW Jandy Aqua Pure 1400 geting Codes 181, 172,Service l
PostPosted: August 15th, 2011, 8:40 pm 
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jsw5620 wrote:
Are you sure you have 120V there? I may be wrong but I though when you have a black and a red there is 240V and 120V you have a black and white, but I am not an electrician. When you measured with your meter, did you put one lead on the red and one lead on the black?


I put the black lead on the black wire and the red lead on the red wire


I just went back out there again, and tested it again with both volt meters.
I get up to 220 on both testers seams the meters only test to max of 220VAC, so I wired it back up the way it was.

black to black
red to yellow/black

and kept the white/black to the red/black


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220V and 240V is basically the same. Dumb question, but are you sure you have water flow? Pump is pumping and isn't clogged? Check your connections and make sure they are all making good contact for the cell wiring and flow sensor. If all looks good, I'd call jandy tomorrow. In the mean time, you can look at the troubleshooting starting on page 32 of that link I sent you.



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 Post subject: Re: NEW Jandy Aqua Pure 1400 geting Codes 181, 172,Service l
PostPosted: August 15th, 2011, 9:01 pm 
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jsw5620 wrote:
220V and 240V is basically the same. Dumb question, but are you sure you have water flow? Pump is pumping and isn't clogged? Check your connections and make sure they are all making good contact for the cell wiring and flow sensor. If all looks good, I'd call Jandy tomorrow. In the mean time, you can look at the troubleshooting starting on page 32 of that link I sent you.


Pump motor is working perfectly, Water is flowing through the clean-outs, the skimmer, wall sconces, and even the in-pool cleaning system.
I also just took apart the filter tank cleaned all the fins and installed it back not forgetting to add back the DE.
Salinity is 3.2, and I have the production set to 100% but not enuf chlorine in the pool to kill the green growing.
Pool temp has been very hot at 90% today here in Florida.


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 Post subject: Re: NEW Jandy Aqua Pure 1400 geting Codes 181, 172,Service l
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SWG isn't going to kill the green in your pool. I'd recommend clicking on the pool school button in the top right of this page and also getting a test kit.



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 Post subject: Re: NEW Jandy Aqua Pure 1400 geting Codes 181, 172,Service l
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From all of the reading I have done here with a SWG and a green algae pool, you need to go through the shock process first, pass all 3 tests, then as the chlorine drifts down, turn on the SWG, maybe add liquid chlorine manually for up to 48hrs as the SWG begins to come up to speed.



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 Post subject: Re: NEW Jandy Aqua Pure 1400 geting Codes 181, 172,Service l
PostPosted: August 16th, 2011, 7:12 am 
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Call Jandy. You have a failed sensor. Bet its the one with white epoxy. The new ones have black. Jandy knows the white ones are problematic.

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 Post subject: Re: NEW Jandy Aqua Pure 1400 geting Codes 181, 172,Service l
PostPosted: August 17th, 2011, 11:01 am 
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PoolGuyNJ wrote:
Call Jandy. You have a failed sensor. Bet its the one with white epoxy. The new ones have black. Jandy knows the white ones are problematic.

Scott


Yes, it is white where the 3 contacts are, It came with the system.
did you have the same problem as well?

Where can I find a black one for the cheepest price?

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If you just installed a brand new system like you said in the OP, then it should be under warranty.



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 Post subject: Re: NEW Jandy Aqua Pure 1400 geting Codes 181, 172,Service l
PostPosted: August 17th, 2011, 11:36 am 
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jsw5620 wrote:
If you just installed a brand new system like you said in the OP, then it should be under warranty.


True, I hope I can get a replacement for free.
Get the black one not the white, hope thay have it.

Hope this works

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 Post subject: Re: NEW Jandy Aqua Pure 1400 geting Codes 181, 172,Service l
PostPosted: August 19th, 2011, 12:31 am 
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Can't speak to the color but I was having the same issue within the last month. My pool was just recently finished so warranty was not a problem. The repair guy originally just replaced the sensor but that didn't seem to solve the problem. He said Jandy was aware of flow sensor issues and was backordered due to the demand for replacements. I was lucky however as he had a neighbor who was an engineer for Jandy and told him that it appears to not only be a problem with the sensors but the boards as well. He put in a request for both and replaced them at the same time. You may want to try the same. Haven't had any problems but it's only been a week or so now. Fingers crossed.


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