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fortmyersmark
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Post subject: New believer in conversion, I'm doing it!  Posted: July 11th, 2009, 3:12 pm |
Joined: July 11th, 2009, 12:57 pm Posts: 48 Location: fort myers, florida
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Hey all,
I've finally had it with the baqua hassle and I'm converting as soon as I have all the supplies (test kit, chlorine, new filter).
I've read many of the posts and learned quite a bit and gained the courage I need to do this. My wife will be doing most of the chlorinating and testing because she's home during the day. After reading up on the posts, I think we can get it done in about 7 days.
We'll try to post as many pics as we can because I feel I owe it to this outstanding forum that has been created here. It's truly amazing.
One thing I'm concerned about is the green algae bloom I've got from the recent high temps and rainfall we've had. Will this affect the conversion?
_________________ Above ground, 24 foot round, vinyl liner 13,500 gals. 1 HP, 75 GPM, Cartridge filter, Kon-Tiki sucker thingy TF-100 test kit
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waterbear
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Post subject: Re: New believer in conversion, I'm doing it!  Posted: July 11th, 2009, 3:23 pm |
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You will have a higher chlorine demand but if you follow the conversion procedure you will also kill the algae. The only difference is that you will go through more chlorine and the process will take a bit longer (but not THAT much longer).
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fortmyersmark
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Post subject: Re: New believer in conversion, I'm doing it!  Posted: July 11th, 2009, 3:27 pm |
Joined: July 11th, 2009, 12:57 pm Posts: 48 Location: fort myers, florida
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O.k. thanks,
I recently added a bunch of the baq algecide and it looks like it killed it, so maybe it wont be so bad.
By the way, that test kit is expensive! But in the long run, it'll be worth it.
_________________ Above ground, 24 foot round, vinyl liner 13,500 gals. 1 HP, 75 GPM, Cartridge filter, Kon-Tiki sucker thingy TF-100 test kit
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fortmyersmark
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Post subject: Re: New believer in conversion, I'm doing it!  Posted: July 11th, 2009, 3:51 pm |
Joined: July 11th, 2009, 12:57 pm Posts: 48 Location: fort myers, florida
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Hey waterbear,
I read one of your posts that mentioned sodium percarbonate. I like the idea that it shortens conversion time. Where can I get it?
_________________ Above ground, 24 foot round, vinyl liner 13,500 gals. 1 HP, 75 GPM, Cartridge filter, Kon-Tiki sucker thingy TF-100 test kit
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TravisD
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Post subject: Re: New believer in conversion, I'm doing it!  Posted: July 11th, 2009, 4:30 pm |
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Joined: July 9th, 2009, 10:42 am Posts: 142 Location: Tampa, FL
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Greetings to a fellow Floridian!! Glad to see that you are making the switch. I started my conversion yesterday and the great people of this forum have been most helpful and encouraging. If you are interested, you can check out my progress here.
_________________ 24' Round AGP | 13,600 Gallons | Waterway Cartridge Filter | Waterway 2 Speed Pump | K-2006 Test Kit 100% Trouble Free Since The Baqua Conversion
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Butterfly
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Post subject: Re: New believer in conversion, I'm doing it!  Posted: July 11th, 2009, 7:40 pm |
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Joined: May 30th, 2007, 8:57 pm Posts: 5928 Location: South Carolina
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Hi fortmyersmark, Glad to hear we'll have another converter and sounds like you have done your homework, too  We'll be waiting for the pix Welcome to the forum 
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fortmyersmark
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Post subject: Re: New believer in conversion, I'm doing it!  Posted: July 12th, 2009, 9:18 am |
Joined: July 11th, 2009, 12:57 pm Posts: 48 Location: fort myers, florida
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Okay I'm going to Leslie's for my test kit and chlorine. Probably start today. 
_________________ Above ground, 24 foot round, vinyl liner 13,500 gals. 1 HP, 75 GPM, Cartridge filter, Kon-Tiki sucker thingy TF-100 test kit
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duraleigh
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Post subject: Re: New believer in conversion, I'm doing it!  Posted: July 12th, 2009, 9:55 am |
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Joined: April 1st, 2007, 8:12 am Posts: 9698 Location: Raleigh, NC
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Be sure to get the test kit with the FAS/DPD test for chlorine (DPD is not correct....FAS/DPD is). Converting without it is problematic.
_________________ Dave S. Site Owner TFTestkits owner TFTestkits , Pool Calculator , Pool School
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fortmyersmark
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Post subject: Re: New believer in conversion, I'm doing it!  Posted: July 12th, 2009, 10:05 am |
Joined: July 11th, 2009, 12:57 pm Posts: 48 Location: fort myers, florida
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Yeah, that's the one I WAS going to get, but I called them and they didn't have it, I posted too soon.
So, I'm gonna order the one from TFP, which is what I should have done in the first place.
_________________ Above ground, 24 foot round, vinyl liner 13,500 gals. 1 HP, 75 GPM, Cartridge filter, Kon-Tiki sucker thingy TF-100 test kit
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fortmyersmark
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Post subject: Re: New believer in conversion, I'm doing it!  Posted: July 12th, 2009, 10:20 am |
Joined: July 11th, 2009, 12:57 pm Posts: 48 Location: fort myers, florida
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While I was reading thru the posts, someone mentioned that they ran out of a certain chemical in their test kit, so I was thinking about ordering some refills when I order my kit. What is used most during conversion?
_________________ Above ground, 24 foot round, vinyl liner 13,500 gals. 1 HP, 75 GPM, Cartridge filter, Kon-Tiki sucker thingy TF-100 test kit
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duraleigh
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Post subject: Re: New believer in conversion, I'm doing it!  Posted: July 12th, 2009, 10:28 am |
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Joined: April 1st, 2007, 8:12 am Posts: 9698 Location: Raleigh, NC
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An extra bottle of the FAS/DPD reagent is not a bad idea. It's the item most frequently depleted during a conversion. the DPD powder amount seems to be adequate for most everyone.......be sure to use the small scoop part of the spoon....not the flat paddle handle.
FWIW, The most common refill item is CYA reagent. Since we/you know you don't have any CYA (yet) there is no need to test for it.
When your conversion is complete and you have added CYA, you should calculate your dosage carefully and should hit your mark with two tests. I think there's enough reagent in there to provide 7 tests and you should not have to test again but maybe once the rest of the swim season.
Check your PM's
_________________ Dave S. Site Owner TFTestkits owner TFTestkits , Pool Calculator , Pool School
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pepsiholic
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Post subject: Re: New believer in conversion, I'm doing it!  Posted: July 12th, 2009, 10:34 am |
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Hi
That would be the R-0870 DPD Powder and the R-0871 FAS/DPD. You will definately go through lots of these, well not so much the powder , but I did because until I got the feel for my pool, I tested the chlorine everyday with it after my conversion. Now that I have learned what my pool water "likes" to keep it happy, I just test with it once a week. Good luck, you won't regret it!!
_________________ 24 x 52 Round AG Empire Pool 13,500 gal. 1 HP Hayward Power-Flo pump Hayward sand filter TF-100 test kit
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mickey4paws
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Post subject: Re: New believer in conversion, I'm doing it!  Posted: July 12th, 2009, 12:45 pm |
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fortmyersmark wrote: Hey waterbear,
I read one of your posts that mentioned sodium percarbonate. I like the idea that it shortens conversion time. Where can I get it? I used sodium percarbonate for my conversion. I did end up having to use some bleach, but only about 12 bottles. So in my case it definitely made the conversion go faster. I think the sodium percarbonate eats up the Baquacil that's in the pool, but then there was still some left in the lines so I had to finish up with bleach because I was all out of the sodium percarbonate. If you do decide to use it, I would recommend buying more than you think you'll need, just in case. Good luck with your conversion. I know you'll be so happy that you switched. My pool has never looked so good.
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fortmyersmark
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Post subject: Re: New believer in conversion, I'm doing it!  Posted: July 12th, 2009, 6:29 pm |
Joined: July 11th, 2009, 12:57 pm Posts: 48 Location: fort myers, florida
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Thanks everyone (mickey4paws, pepsiholic, duraleigh), the sodium percarbonate route sounds good, and I plan on using chlorine from the pool store 'cause it's more concentrated.
I just wonder if there's a place where I can go and get the sodium percarbonate rather than getting it from a website.
_________________ Above ground, 24 foot round, vinyl liner 13,500 gals. 1 HP, 75 GPM, Cartridge filter, Kon-Tiki sucker thingy TF-100 test kit
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chem geek
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Post subject: Re: New believer in conversion, I'm doing it!  Posted: July 12th, 2009, 11:36 pm |
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Joined: March 28th, 2007, 2:40 pm Posts: 5208 Location: San Rafael, CA USA
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The procedure for converting from Baquacil by using sodium percarbonate is in this PDF file. However, you can no longer order the Clearview OXYplus mentioned but can order sodium percarbonate from The Chemistry Store here for under $3 per pound. I don't know if you can get sodium percarbonate in standard stores -- I doubt it.
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pitguy3
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Post subject: Re: New believer in conversion, I'm doing it!  Posted: July 13th, 2009, 10:16 am |
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Joined: July 9th, 2009, 7:30 pm Posts: 108 Location: Birmingham, AL
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How much should one order for an above ground, 24ft,round pool? I'd hate to order too much or too little! LOL!!
_________________ 24' Above Ground Round 13,500 gallon...Hayward sand filter 1.5hp Pump Former Baquagoo victim... Now GOO FREE!! http://www.flickr.com/photos/pitguy3/se ... 763801706/ ROLL TIDE!
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JasonLion
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Post subject: Re: New believer in conversion, I'm doing it!  Posted: July 13th, 2009, 1:29 pm |
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If you want to use sodium percarbonate, read the directions that Chem Geek linked to again. They contain the answer to your question. Just keep in mind that the sodium percarbonate instructions don't quite finish the job. It is best, when you get to step 5 in those instructions, to switch to a bleach conversion (as described at Pool School) to finish things up. Also, keep in mind that while sodium percarbonate is normally faster, it usually ends up being more expensive that the bleach you would have used to do the same thing.
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pitguy3
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Post subject: Re: New believer in conversion, I'm doing it!  Posted: July 13th, 2009, 3:26 pm |
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Joined: July 9th, 2009, 7:30 pm Posts: 108 Location: Birmingham, AL
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Thanks Jason!! I'll check it out tonight. Posting from my iPhone and haven't read the PDF.
_________________ 24' Above Ground Round 13,500 gallon...Hayward sand filter 1.5hp Pump Former Baquagoo victim... Now GOO FREE!! http://www.flickr.com/photos/pitguy3/se ... 763801706/ ROLL TIDE!
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