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Txmat
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Post subject: Re: I've defected to the dark side! New peristaltic pump  Posted: May 29th, 2011, 5:45 pm |
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Joined: June 18th, 2010, 8:01 am Posts: 272 Location: San Antonio
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When I installed a tablet feeder (before bbb) i cut the flex and inserted a short length of PVC and drilled into it.
_________________ Larry in Texas
Above ground 7,700 gallons, 19 inch sand filter ( 2 sq. ft.), with a WaterWay Hi-Flo Pump with an A.O. Smith 1 hp SF 1.0 motor.
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loweran
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Post subject: Re: I've defected to the dark side! New peristaltic pump  Posted: May 30th, 2011, 9:09 am |
Joined: February 9th, 2011, 10:53 pm Posts: 177 Location: Central Texas
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The Stenner comes with a check valve I believe. Is that sufficient to keep the pool from flowing through the pump?
_________________ IG 23K Gal, Quad DE 80, PebbleSheen, Intelliflo VS+SVRS, MT 400 NG, Stenner Pump
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Bama Rambler
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Post subject: Re: I've defected to the dark side! New peristaltic pump  Posted: June 1st, 2011, 5:07 am |
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Joined: June 22nd, 2009, 7:06 pm Posts: 11277 Location: South Alabama
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Good looking install.  Thanks for posting it.
_________________ Dave J. TFP Moderator 24' x 52" Round AGP. 1.5hp Dynamo pump. 24" Pentair Sand Dollar Filter. 45MHP2(3GPD) Peristaltic Pump Pool School Pool Calculator TF-Test Kit You have passed the OCLT when: 1)You lose 1ppm or less FC overnight, & 2)You have .5ppm CC's or less, & 3)your water is clear.
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jdp39
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Post subject: Re: I've defected to the dark side! New peristaltic pump  Posted: June 1st, 2011, 9:11 am |
Joined: May 31st, 2011, 8:18 am Posts: 38 Location: Charlotte County, Florida
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Just a note on Stenner pumps. I used to install chlorine injection/contact tank systems up north and installed auto chlorination on our old place. While we rarely used them up north for some reason they seem to be popular down here. Although not sure why, I guess folks in Florida like to buy parts. My experience with Stenner's is their reliability is rather poor. Especially when exposed to sunlight for any great portion of the day. Even with "uv resistant" tubes, etc., I still saw the poly housing fail, rollers fail, and the tubes failed regularly - read: less than 90 days. Although I see Chikn's is located in a much cooler clime and indoors. Here the heat just kills em indoors or out. The Stenner I installed at our old place down the road got to be such a pain that I threw it out, installed a Pulsafeeder and never had a lick of trouble in two years. Not to mention that a Pulsafeeder has auto degas so you know you're always pumping liquid for greater consistency. For the difference in price a good diaphram pump seems to be the better choice simply from a repair cost/reliability standpoint. Anyone having similar issues? btw I did find hypochlor tabs w/o CYA here http://www.intheswim.com/Commercial-Products/Chlorine-and-Bromine/3-Cal-Hypo-Tablets/
_________________ Doug 12k g IG plaster w/ Diamondbrite, spillover spa, 1.5hp Jacuzzi pump, 100sq/f Jacuzzi cartridge, inline chlorinator (tab), 9-10h runtime peak season
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jdp39
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Post subject: Re: I've defected to the dark side! New peristaltic pump  Posted: June 1st, 2011, 11:13 am |
Joined: May 31st, 2011, 8:18 am Posts: 38 Location: Charlotte County, Florida
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Wow! I've only been around em 20 or so years but the usage wasn't industrial or utility, simply for rual homes/apartments on shallow wells w/ choloform/organic iron problems. Those pumps were generally used in conjunction with large contact tanks to obtain desired chlorine to contaminate contact times and almost exclusively used as a chlorine feed. Perhaps the dwell time associated with the application and feed media was to blame there. On the larger units, apartment buildings and such, we used hydraulically actuated feeders.
Dave, presumably your feeder only runs in conjunction w/ main pump runtime correct?
Just my personal experience here where it's really hot for 6+ months a year left a bad taste in my mouth for the Stenner units. They simply couldn't stand the sun+heat+chemical it seems. After a year of putting parts in one I could have bought another one.
_________________ Doug 12k g IG plaster w/ Diamondbrite, spillover spa, 1.5hp Jacuzzi pump, 100sq/f Jacuzzi cartridge, inline chlorinator (tab), 9-10h runtime peak season
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ChiknNutz
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Post subject: Re: I've defected to the dark side! New peristaltic pump  Posted: June 1st, 2011, 11:38 am |
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Joined: July 22nd, 2010, 3:51 pm Posts: 128 Location: Arlington, WA
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Well, time will tell how these last. Thanks for your insight in any case. The Stenner pumps sure seem like a quality unit (fit/finish/heft/etc) but I have zero experience with them. I just hope it won't turn into a PITA, which is exactly what I was trying to avoid by going this route.
Also, thanks for the link to the Calcium Hypochorite tabs, kinda wish I would have known about those sooner as no one seemed to think they existed, or possibly these aren't quite the same thing. I did notice that they are 65% chlorine, not sure what the other 35% is. Anyone using these in a feeder?
_________________ Chris A. --- 20x40 36k gal IG vinyl pool w/diving board & slide 1HP Pentair Challenger motor & pump | 30" Triton TR100 sand filter | Stenner 45MHP10 Peristaltic Pump
Hayward CL200 Tablet Chlorinator | Pentair SM-20-3 multiport | TF-100 --- 2003 Sundance 850 Altamar hot tub
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jdp39
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Post subject: Re: I've defected to the dark side! New peristaltic pump  Posted: June 1st, 2011, 12:02 pm |
Joined: May 31st, 2011, 8:18 am Posts: 38 Location: Charlotte County, Florida
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Here's what geek told me in another post. Hope it clears it up.
[quote="chem geek"]The main reason Trichlor pucks/tabs are so popular is that they are the only reliable slow-dissolving form of chlorine. There are also Cal-Hypo tabs, but they require more fillers to bind them together and tend to fall apart as they get smaller. Unfortunately, there is no slow-dissolving tablet form of chlorine that does not have the side effect of increasing CYA, as with Trichlor, or CH as with Cal-Hypo. There is also Dichlor, but that's only in powdered form and increases CYA even faster than Trichlor for the same chlorine amount. That's just the way the chemistry works.
There is a solid form of chlorine, lithium hypochlorite, that doesn't have these side effects, but it only comes in powdered form and it is very expensive.
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In my case the added CH wouldn't hurt but I still think the clear winner is plain ol' chlorine injection. After awhile w/ hypochlor tabs I think you'd get a CH build up - much like the CYA build up from trichlor. As an aside, I did notice today that there is a tap in the bottom side of my tab chlorinator that I think would be an ideal place for my injector/ck valve. Not sure if they all have that but it might be worth a look. Beats the c/rap outta doing extra plumbing.
_________________ Doug 12k g IG plaster w/ Diamondbrite, spillover spa, 1.5hp Jacuzzi pump, 100sq/f Jacuzzi cartridge, inline chlorinator (tab), 9-10h runtime peak season
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loweran
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Post subject: Re: I've defected to the dark side! New peristaltic pump  Posted: June 1st, 2011, 12:14 pm |
Joined: February 9th, 2011, 10:53 pm Posts: 177 Location: Central Texas
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jdp39 wrote: As an aside, I did notice today that there is a tap in the bottom side of my tab chlorinator that I think would be an ideal place for my injector/ck valve. Not sure if they all have that but it might be worth a look. Beats the c/rap outta doing extra plumbing. Hmmm, I will have to look into that. I do not plan to use them in conjunction, so might be an option. Any thoughts?
_________________ IG 23K Gal, Quad DE 80, PebbleSheen, Intelliflo VS+SVRS, MT 400 NG, Stenner Pump
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jdp39
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Post subject: Re: I've defected to the dark side! New peristaltic pump  Posted: June 1st, 2011, 12:48 pm |
Joined: May 31st, 2011, 8:18 am Posts: 38 Location: Charlotte County, Florida
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I'll bet it is a drain but as the chlorinator is above waterline once you crack the top it should drain anyhew. My thought was simply to keep plumbing to a minimum and in addition keep the tab unit in place for trichlor in case my CYA drops. I think a quick way to intro CYA thru trichlor tabs would be to simply use the broken pieces you get in bottom or break a few up to increase surface area of the tabs. I have almost half a bucket laying here and it ain't cheap. You could always shut down feed pump during the process. Miscellaneus ramblings.
_________________ Doug 12k g IG plaster w/ Diamondbrite, spillover spa, 1.5hp Jacuzzi pump, 100sq/f Jacuzzi cartridge, inline chlorinator (tab), 9-10h runtime peak season
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loweran
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Post subject: Re: I've defected to the dark side! New peristaltic pump  Posted: June 1st, 2011, 1:22 pm |
Joined: February 9th, 2011, 10:53 pm Posts: 177 Location: Central Texas
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jdp39 wrote: I'll bet it is a drain but as the chlorinator is above waterline once you crack the top it should drain anyhew. My thought was simply to keep plumbing to a minimum and in addition keep the tab unit in place for trichlor in case my CYA drops. I think a quick way to intro CYA thru trichlor tabs would be to simply use the broken pieces you get in bottom or break a few up to increase surface area of the tabs. I have almost half a bucket laying here and it ain't cheap. You could always shut down feed pump during the process. Miscellaneus ramblings. This is exactly what I was thinking. I have no idea what my CYA will look like at the beginning of next season, so I might want to start with the left over pucks I have. It is also a pretty fool proof way to get chlorine into your system if you need to be away for an extended period. I think it would be a lot easier to shut down the pump and have someone check the feeder every week rather than ask them to pour 15 gallons of bleach into a barrel.
_________________ IG 23K Gal, Quad DE 80, PebbleSheen, Intelliflo VS+SVRS, MT 400 NG, Stenner Pump
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ChiknNutz
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Post subject: Re: I've defected to the dark side! New peristaltic pump  Posted: June 1st, 2011, 1:56 pm |
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Joined: July 22nd, 2010, 3:51 pm Posts: 128 Location: Arlington, WA
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Due to the GOBS of rain we received over winter and spring, my CYA went down by almost 1/2 this year (because I had to drain so stinkin' much water off)! I too have about 1/2 a bucket of 3" pucks, plus a bucket of dichlor, which I'm sure I'll use as time goes by. I just checked my CYA the other day and it is right about 40, maybe 45 (a little subjective on the test you know), so no more CYA for me this year.
_________________ Chris A. --- 20x40 36k gal IG vinyl pool w/diving board & slide 1HP Pentair Challenger motor & pump | 30" Triton TR100 sand filter | Stenner 45MHP10 Peristaltic Pump
Hayward CL200 Tablet Chlorinator | Pentair SM-20-3 multiport | TF-100 --- 2003 Sundance 850 Altamar hot tub
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loweran
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Post subject: Re: I've defected to the dark side! New peristaltic pump  Posted: June 3rd, 2011, 9:21 pm |
Joined: February 9th, 2011, 10:53 pm Posts: 177 Location: Central Texas
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Any thoughts on where to sit the 15 gal container. The best place I have is right next to the easy touch 8. Any concerns putting it there? Alternate location would be next to the heater.
_________________ IG 23K Gal, Quad DE 80, PebbleSheen, Intelliflo VS+SVRS, MT 400 NG, Stenner Pump
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griffths
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Post subject: Re: I've defected to the dark side! New peristaltic pump  Posted: June 6th, 2011, 1:22 pm |
Joined: May 2nd, 2011, 11:14 am Posts: 28 Location: Long Grove, IL
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Bama Rambler wrote: There shouldn't be any issue putting it close to either. There shouldn't be any large holes in the drum and the bleach won't be highly volatile and won't be fuming very much at all. How long can the feed tube be that goes to the pool plumbing? I am considering the feeder pump route but would like to put the 15 gal tank of bleach and feed pump in the basement to keep it cool and secure. The feed tube would need to be approx 25-30 feet to get to the pool plumbing outside. Thanks, Jay
_________________ 28,000 gal in-ground gunite pool with PacFab Superflow 100 sand filter, Intelliflow VS pump and TF100 kit with SpeedStir
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