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poolmama67
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Post subject: I still have a cloudy pool  Posted: June 14th, 2012, 12:47 pm |
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Joined: May 21st, 2012, 6:14 pm Posts: 125 Location: Arkansas
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So glad to find this site. "The pool store experts" (chuckle, chuckle, growl) have already made over $300 on me this season. And I still have a cloudy pool. I am, like the others, a newbie and about at my wits end. I have the test strips. I have used lots of shock, super blue clarifier(what a joke), and bought the 50 lbs bag of sodium bicarbonate, what I later found out, was baking soda. I have spent more time this year trying to keep it clear than swimming. I used floc upon the first opening and that cleared it up until we had a bad sand storm. Since then the pool has been cloudy. Please help!!!
_________________ 24 ft. round ABG-vinyl-15200 gallon Sand Filter w/1 1/2 HP pump Installed May 2011 Taylor K-2006 test kit BBB method http://www.poolcalculator.com/ pool-school/chlorine_cya_chart_shock pool-school/shocking_your_pool pool-school/pool_test_kit_comparison
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RobbieH
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Post subject: Re: BBB for Beginners  Posted: June 14th, 2012, 12:48 pm |
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Joined: August 30th, 2010, 12:29 pm Posts: 1971 Location: Dallas, TX
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Get us a set of test results, even if it's from strips and the pool store. Tell us all the specifics about your pool you can, as in what kind of pool, filter type, etc.
_________________ Built in 1957 44,000 gallon in-ground gunite/plaster pool, 600 lb. Pentair Triton II T100 Sand Filter, CompuPool CPCS48 SWG, Borates at 50 ppm, TF-100 test kit
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RobbieH
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Post subject: Re: BBB for Beginners  Posted: June 14th, 2012, 1:02 pm |
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Joined: August 30th, 2010, 12:29 pm Posts: 1971 Location: Dallas, TX
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Bromine should be ignored unless you have a bromine pool. If you have a bromine pool, let us know right away because this thread will need to be moved into the bromine area to avoid confusion. Your total alkalinity is a little high, but shouldn't be too much a problem. I'm guessing between the highish TA and the addition of all that baking soda, it caused the cloudiness. If you want to read up on lowering TA, here you go: pool-school/lowering%20total%20alkalinityYou can also consider adding DE to your sand filter: pool-school/add_de_to_a_sand_filterI don't think it is necessary though. Given time, I think your pool will clear itself if it is just from the sand.
_________________ Built in 1957 44,000 gallon in-ground gunite/plaster pool, 600 lb. Pentair Triton II T100 Sand Filter, CompuPool CPCS48 SWG, Borates at 50 ppm, TF-100 test kit
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RobbieH
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Post subject: Re: BBB for Beginners  Posted: June 14th, 2012, 1:03 pm |
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Joined: August 30th, 2010, 12:29 pm Posts: 1971 Location: Dallas, TX
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poolmama67 wrote: free chlorine was 10-high You can't have total chlorine of 3 and free chlorine of 10.
_________________ Built in 1957 44,000 gallon in-ground gunite/plaster pool, 600 lb. Pentair Triton II T100 Sand Filter, CompuPool CPCS48 SWG, Borates at 50 ppm, TF-100 test kit
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RobbieH
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Post subject: Re: I still have a cloudy pool  Posted: June 14th, 2012, 2:32 pm |
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Joined: August 30th, 2010, 12:29 pm Posts: 1971 Location: Dallas, TX
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So those numbers are before or after adding more "shock" and baking soda? Your TA was already high, so adding baking soda will have made it even higher. Also your CYA was already high for a normal pool, and most likely the "shock" product you added drove it even higher.
Can you put up a picture of your water?
PS: Don't go back to that pool store!
_________________ Built in 1957 44,000 gallon in-ground gunite/plaster pool, 600 lb. Pentair Triton II T100 Sand Filter, CompuPool CPCS48 SWG, Borates at 50 ppm, TF-100 test kit
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cramar
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Post subject: Re: I still have a cloudy pool  Posted: June 14th, 2012, 3:08 pm |
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Joined: November 10th, 2010, 3:27 pm Posts: 963 Location: Sault Ontario
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While your doing all this, order a real test kit, seriously, you can't maintain your pool without a proper test kit ( http://www.tftestkits.net), then read pool school, upper left cover of the site, when your done, re-read pool school. Seriously, a good test kit with the knowledge contained in pool school will go very far.
_________________ 20' X 54" Sharkline Matrix Resin AGP, 9400 Gallons, Sta-Rite 1 HP Dynamo Pump, 150 lb Pentair Sand Filter, Gorilla Pad, Foam Cove, Taylor K-2006 kit, BBB method, 8'X20' Fafco Sunsaver Hard Plumb, DIY Fountain, Margarittaville Fiji
My Build: one-man-one-pool-and-one-deck-agp-pics-t37172.html My Build 'To-Do' List for other DIY'ers: my-pool-build-list-t40249.html?hilit=list
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RobbieH
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Post subject: Re: I still have a cloudy pool  Posted: June 14th, 2012, 3:12 pm |
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Joined: August 30th, 2010, 12:29 pm Posts: 1971 Location: Dallas, TX
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OK, I"m betting that's not algae cloud, especially since you haven't shocked the pool.
A good test kit and an overnight chlorine loss test would tell us a lot.
_________________ Built in 1957 44,000 gallon in-ground gunite/plaster pool, 600 lb. Pentair Triton II T100 Sand Filter, CompuPool CPCS48 SWG, Borates at 50 ppm, TF-100 test kit
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RobbieH
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Post subject: Re: I still have a cloudy pool  Posted: June 14th, 2012, 4:14 pm |
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Joined: August 30th, 2010, 12:29 pm Posts: 1971 Location: Dallas, TX
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That or the TF-100. I love the TF-100, very nicely put-together kit, good, easy-to-read instructions. See tftestkits.net
_________________ Built in 1957 44,000 gallon in-ground gunite/plaster pool, 600 lb. Pentair Triton II T100 Sand Filter, CompuPool CPCS48 SWG, Borates at 50 ppm, TF-100 test kit
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Speedo
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Post subject: Re: I still have a cloudy pool  Posted: June 14th, 2012, 5:03 pm |
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Joined: May 4th, 2011, 6:26 pm Posts: 466
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TF-100 comes with more reagents, might as well get it over the taylor. I've never used the TF kit, but I would use either of them. Or you could decide by which case you prefer.
_________________ Aaron [ Vogue Vectra 24' Round, Resin top, AG / Hard plumbed: Waterway 2HP 2-speed, 27" sand filter & Pentair MiniMax 100 / Taylor K-2006, SpeedStir / Central IL ] Powered by: TFP, The Pool Calculator, Pool School, TFTestkits
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Smykowski
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Post subject: Re: I still have a cloudy pool  Posted: June 15th, 2012, 10:01 am |
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Joined: September 17th, 2011, 2:46 pm Posts: 719 Location: Gurnee, IL (North Suburban Chi-town)
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poolmama67 wrote: The pool store is over 35 miles away..... If there was ever a perfect candidate to make the switch to BBB, it's you. You will never have to visit that pool store for chemistry again, your own testing will be much more accurate, and then you can add only what's needed to the pool (which you'll be able to buy from the grocery store or the hardware store for much cheaper). Here's your marching orders: 1. Order a good test kit. Majority of users here order the TF-100. I highly suggest adding the speedstir for convenience factor, but its optional. 2. While you're waiting for the kit to be delivered, read Pool School. The link is in the upper right corner of every page. Nearly every article is relevant, so read all of it. It will seem overwhelming, but it has all the info you need. For a little more focused reading start with these articles - ABCs of Pool Water Chemistry, Recommended Pool Chemicals, and What is BBB?. 3. Next read How to Shock Your Pool and this thread. These are very important, as correctly shocking your pool will be step 1 in turning your pool sparkly. 4. If at this point you're still waiting for the test kit, read some more, and browse the threads where people clear up either an algae filled pool or an ammonia filled pool. The process is the same, and it will show you that there are many who have done it before, and it works. It also will prepare you for the job ahead of you. 5. When you get the kit, test your water, and post a full set of test results. The TF-100 comes with instructions, but this thread goes into more detail. Once we know what condition your water is in, we can help you clear it. There are a lot of people who love helping others with this process, so you'll be in good hands. 6. Finally, and some would say most importantly, take pictures!! We've got the start point already, but document the process as well. Other readers will cheer you on, plus its a good way for you to look back and see the progress (because on some days it will be so gradual, you may start to get frustrated). Welcome to TFP!!!
_________________ 33' round, 23,000 gal AG vinyl Doughboy, 1.5HP Hayward PowerFlo Matrix w/ 150# sand filter (X2) "It was a 'Jump to Conclusions' mat. You see, it would be this mat that you would put on the floor... and would have different CONCLUSIONS written on it that you could JUMP TO." Pool Store year 1 - pool open 2 months, $850 Pool Store year 2 - pool open 2 months, $440 BBB year 1 - pool open 4 months, $170
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cramar
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Post subject: Re: I still have a cloudy pool  Posted: June 15th, 2012, 2:24 pm |
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Joined: November 10th, 2010, 3:27 pm Posts: 963 Location: Sault Ontario
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The comment above outlines the exact process you want to follow, I'm gonna bookmark that and copy/paste whenever needed, those instructions are complete and concise 
_________________ 20' X 54" Sharkline Matrix Resin AGP, 9400 Gallons, Sta-Rite 1 HP Dynamo Pump, 150 lb Pentair Sand Filter, Gorilla Pad, Foam Cove, Taylor K-2006 kit, BBB method, 8'X20' Fafco Sunsaver Hard Plumb, DIY Fountain, Margarittaville Fiji
My Build: one-man-one-pool-and-one-deck-agp-pics-t37172.html My Build 'To-Do' List for other DIY'ers: my-pool-build-list-t40249.html?hilit=list
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