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mickey4paws
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Post subject: How to Properly Clean a Cell  Posted: October 2nd, 2009, 4:18 pm |
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We have closed the pool and now I need to clean my cell (an Aqua Rite T-15). There is a yellowish powder on the inside of the cell. There was also some crusty darkish stuff (not much though) which I flushed out with a garden hose. Goldline says to put the cell in a bucket, cord on top, and water level should be below the warranty sticker, and cleaning solution should be 4 parts water/1 part muriatic acid and soak it (forgot to ask them for how long). I also read at this site to make the cleaning solution in one bucket and then using a dry bucket, pour the solution through the cell (but I don't see how you could soak it this way. http://www.ehow.com/how_4861273_clean-p ... ells.html#I just don't want to damage the cell and wonder if the acid/water mixture would damage the outside plastic housing of the cell if I let it soak in the cleaning solution. Any help or tips would be very much appreciated.
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flyweed
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Post subject: Re: How to Properly Clean a Cell  Posted: October 2nd, 2009, 7:10 pm |
Joined: August 3rd, 2009, 9:52 pm Posts: 332 Location: SW Wisconsin
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I've never tried muriatic acid, but I assume it would work..but something a bit more friendly is plain old White Vinegar. I use this full strength and submerge my salt water generator cell in it and leave it set for a good 2-3 hours and then wash it out with plain water...all the plates clean off beautifully.
HTH Dan
_________________ 33' x 52" Swim and Play Inc. PARAGON AGP. Hayward H200 Heater. Hayward Power-Flo LX 1.5hp pump. Sta-Rite Cristal Flo T-210WF Sand Filter. Compu-Chlor 40K SWG
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DBfan187
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Post subject: Re: How to Properly Clean a Cell  Posted: October 3rd, 2009, 2:17 pm |
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 This is the cell cleaning stand.
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Post subject: Re: How to Properly Clean a Cell  Posted: October 3rd, 2009, 2:43 pm |
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Hi Mickey When I clean a cell (Goldline/ Hayward) I premix the acid to ~ 10:1 water:acid. Then I put a #11 expandable rubber plug in the bottom, set the cell in an empty bucket and pour the acid mix into the cell to the top of the plates. Then I watch the bubbles foaming  (If there is no foaming or bubbles, the cell didn't need the acid, so I dump the acid 'post haste' and rinse the cell  ) I watch it to see when it stops bubbling, or for 10 minutes, and empty and rinse the cell - if there's still more stuff on the plates, I'll repeat the procedure.
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jagfan
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Post subject: Re: How to Properly Clean a Cell  Posted: October 3rd, 2009, 6:47 pm |
Joined: April 8th, 2009, 5:12 am Posts: 104 Location: Orange Park, FL
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Here's a tip if you have a small particle lodged between the blades and can't get it out. Use a pipe clearner. My dealer gave me the idea when I had a small seed or something similar lodged between the blades that I couldn't get out by spraying the hose.
_________________ 15x30 IG vinyl liner pool, pool cage Hayward S-220T high rate sand filter and Hayward super pump w/1hp motor Hayward SwimPure Plus SWG Polaris 380 cleaner and booster pump
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mickey4paws
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Post subject: Re: How to Properly Clean a Cell  Posted: October 4th, 2009, 9:02 am |
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Thanks so much for the replies, I really appreciate it. That stand looks nice, maybe next year I'll have to get one. I want to clean the cell today.
Probably a dumb question, but where do I get a #11 expandable plug? Would a pool store typically have this?
Edit: I got the #11 plug at pool store (it was only $2). Thank you so much for the idea, Waste, it worked brilliantly. I have the cell soaking in white vinegar now. It's been about 1.5 hour or so. I still see the yellowing/orange color. Does that ever go away, even when using acid?
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yamilrx
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Post subject: Re: How to Properly Clean a Cell  Posted: October 5th, 2009, 9:52 am |
Joined: September 8th, 2009, 7:04 pm Posts: 29 Location: P. Pines, Florida
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mickey4paws wrote: We have closed the pool and now I need to clean my cell (an Aqua Rite T-15). There is a yellowish powder on the inside of the cell. There was also some crusty darkish stuff (not much though) which I flushed out with a garden hose. Goldline says to put the cell in a bucket, cord on top, and water level should be below the warranty sticker, and cleaning solution should be 4 parts water/1 part muriatic acid and soak it (forgot to ask them for how long). I also read at this site to make the cleaning solution in one bucket and then using a dry bucket, pour the solution through the cell (but I don't see how you could soak it this way. http://www.ehow.com/how_4861273_clean-p ... ells.html#I just don't want to damage the cell and wonder if the acid/water mixture would damage the outside plastic housing of the cell if I let it soak in the cleaning solution. Any help or tips would be very much appreciated. Autopilot instruction book used to recommend 4part water/1part muratic acid and soak for 15min with the cell sumerged in the solution. Now I was told that they recommend pouring the acid through and not soaking it into the acid.
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mickey4paws
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Post subject: Re: How to Properly Clean a Cell  Posted: October 5th, 2009, 1:00 pm |
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Strannik wrote: yep, all the scale should go away i'd say vinegar is just not strong enough Thanks, Strannik. I ended up letting it soak in the vinegar for about 3 1/2 hours. I was able to use a sponge to clean the throat part on each side, but the plastic cage thing (I'm assuming this is where the plates are?) still has some of the orangeish color. It almost looks like the plastic is permanently stained, but I'm going to try the acid and hopefully it will clear it up. I know I'm probably being a bit overconcered about it, but for what these cells cost to replace, I want to keep it in as good a condition as possible.
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mickey4paws
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Post subject: Re: How to Properly Clean a Cell  Posted: October 5th, 2009, 2:04 pm |
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yamilrx wrote: Autopilot instruction book used to recommend 4part water/1part muratic acid and soak for 15min with the cell sumerged in the solution. Now I was told that they recommend pouring the acid through and not soaking it into the acid. Interesting. I think I"ll try just pouring it through, or let it sit inside for a few minutes, and see how good it works.
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mickey4paws
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Post subject: Re: How to Properly Clean a Cell  Posted: October 7th, 2009, 6:58 pm |
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Strannik wrote: don't worry about color of plastic too much, it's the scale on the plates you need to get rid of  pouring it through is just a waste of acid, there is no harm in letting it soak for a short while But I can't really see the plates  All I see is a plastic cage thingie in there. Are those what the plates are?
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Post subject: Re: How to Properly Clean a Cell  Posted: October 8th, 2009, 5:01 am |
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by adding 10 -15 lbs of magnesium sulphate (epsom salts) to the pool water about every six months makes the calcium build up soft, so you are then able to wash it off with your garden hose. sometimes the "plates" are mesh and are held together by plastic straps to make sure the plates don't touoch each other and short out the power pack.
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Post subject: Re: How to Properly Clean a Cell  Posted: October 8th, 2009, 7:08 am |
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yamilrx wrote: mickey4paws wrote: We have closed the pool and now I need to clean my cell (an Aqua Rite T-15). There is a yellowish powder on the inside of the cell. There was also some crusty darkish stuff (not much though) which I flushed out with a garden hose. Goldline says to put the cell in a bucket, cord on top, and water level should be below the warranty sticker, and cleaning solution should be 4 parts water/1 part muriatic acid and soak it (forgot to ask them for how long). I also read at this site to make the cleaning solution in one bucket and then using a dry bucket, pour the solution through the cell (but I don't see how you could soak it this way. http://www.ehow.com/how_4861273_clean-p ... ells.html#I just don't want to damage the cell and wonder if the acid/water mixture would damage the outside plastic housing of the cell if I let it soak in the cleaning solution. Any help or tips would be very much appreciated. Autopilot instruction book used to recommend 4part water/1part muratic acid and soak for 15min with the cell sumerged in the solution. Now I was told that they recommend pouring the acid through and not soaking it into the acid. This is not true. Our owners manual still recommends 4 to 1 mixture. It is too dangerous to recommend pouring the acid through and less effective.
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mickey4paws
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Post subject: Re: How to Properly Clean a Cell  Posted: October 8th, 2009, 5:23 pm |
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Strannik wrote: i'm not sure if construction of cell allows it, but you could try to look at the light through the cell, to see if it's clean
or just wait until acid stops foaming. Thanks, I think I'm going to try a short soak of the acid mixture this weekend and then put it away for the winter. I tried holding it up to a light and also a flashlight and I can't tell anything.
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