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mariane
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Post subject: high chlorine and can't shock?  Posted: May 21st, 2012, 8:52 pm |
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Joined: May 8th, 2012, 9:34 pm Posts: 47 Location: Michigan
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Thanks for the previous help. I have opened our pool, running the pump since this morning. Test results as followed: FC 23 CC 2 TC 25 pH 7.2 TA 90 CH 150 CYA 50 My question: once I started sweeping the pool, it turned cloudy and the FC started dropping from 25 to 23, CC increased from 0 to 2, pH dropped from 7.8 to 7.2. I know to keep pool at shock level until the overnight test shows no drop in FC levels, but since FC is so high to begin with, should I just continue to brush, sweep and retest in the morning? Also, is it best to bring up the pH and TA now or wait till the FC comes down? Am I correct that shock level is 16 for CYA at 50 in a nonSWG pool, 13,200 gallon vinyl AG?
Thank you again for this great resource. Mariane
_________________ mariane 16 x 28 AG doughboy vinyl pool with deep end, ~11900 gals. media master 150# sand filter using zeosand, 1.4 sq ft filter area, 1 hp, 10 amp doughboy power pak pump. in sunny but fickle detroit michigan.
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duraleigh
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Post subject: Re: high chlorine and can't shock?  Posted: May 21st, 2012, 9:14 pm |
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Quote: but since FC is so high to begin with, should I just continue to brush, sweep and retest in the morning? Of course. Replenish the FC as often as you can but no one expects you to pull an all-nighter. Probably 3 times or so tomorrw is just fine.
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mariane
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Post subject: Re: high chlorine and can't shock?  Posted: May 22nd, 2012, 6:34 am |
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Joined: May 8th, 2012, 9:34 pm Posts: 47 Location: Michigan
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Good morning all. Thanks again for the encouragement and advice. Did the overnight chlorine loss test. FYI this am test results FC 18 (last night was 23) CC 0 (last night was 2) pool looks clearer, brushed and then added chlorine to get back to 20 shock level. will recheck soon.
This is sort of fun in a fulfilling way, getting a BBB sparkly pool. ;o)
_________________ mariane 16 x 28 AG doughboy vinyl pool with deep end, ~11900 gals. media master 150# sand filter using zeosand, 1.4 sq ft filter area, 1 hp, 10 amp doughboy power pak pump. in sunny but fickle detroit michigan.
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mariane
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Post subject: Re: high chlorine and can't shock?  Posted: May 24th, 2012, 7:56 am |
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Joined: May 8th, 2012, 9:34 pm Posts: 47 Location: Michigan
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Just an update. Pool looks clear but FC levels dropped by 5 last night. Now this morning: FC 18 CC 0.5 TA 100 CYA 50 pH 7.3 Still want to keep shock levels so added more chlorine. I think I'm in the home stretch. Read on another post it's okay to swim when FC levels are below shock level (which is 20). I'm hoping to be swimming on Friday. ;o) Had ducks swimming in pool this am. I wanted to be first in the pool, not them. ;o)
Bama Rambler, woodyp, duraleigh, Thanks again for your help.
_________________ mariane 16 x 28 AG doughboy vinyl pool with deep end, ~11900 gals. media master 150# sand filter using zeosand, 1.4 sq ft filter area, 1 hp, 10 amp doughboy power pak pump. in sunny but fickle detroit michigan.
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Bama Rambler
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Post subject: Re: high chlorine and can't shock?  Posted: May 24th, 2012, 10:36 am |
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The ducks might be the reason you lost so much FC if they were in there before you ran the morning test. Unfortunately you'll have to keep it at shock level until it passes the OCLT regardless of what's causing the FC to fall.
_________________ Dave J. TFP Moderator 24' x 52" Round AGP. 1.5hp Dynamo pump. 24" Pentair Sand Dollar Filter. 45MHP2(3GPD) Peristaltic Pump Pool School Pool Calculator TF-Test Kit You can stop shocking when you pass the OCLT (You lose 1ppm or less FC overnight, & You have .5ppm CC's or less) & your water is clear.
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jblizzle
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Post subject: Re: high chlorine and can't shock?  Posted: May 24th, 2012, 12:32 pm |
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mariane wrote: Am I correct that shock level is 16 for CYA at 50 woodyp wrote: Shock level is 20 for CYA of 50 Just wanted to point out that you are both "right". The shock levels in the CYA/Chlorine chart (20ppm) are a little more conservative than the shock levels from the poolcalculator (16ppm) ... either will work, but the higher might be a bit faster.
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mariane
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Post subject: Re: high chlorine and can't shock?  Posted: May 24th, 2012, 4:08 pm |
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Joined: May 8th, 2012, 9:34 pm Posts: 47 Location: Michigan
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Bama Rambler- ducks would explain a number of things. In previous years (before finding TFP and BBB, the pool was cloudy most of the summer and I know ducks have been swimming in the dirty winter cover for several years. just did not expect them to swim in the clean pool water. Who knew?! ;o)
Next question re: shock and ducks. Since the ducks are swimming in the wee early morning and if the huge drop in FC is their fault, how can I keep ahead of them and not have to shock every morning, or keep pool at shock level every day?
Thanks for the help. *I plan on buying toy snakes. My son asked if we should buy the real ones. That would keep the ducks out and ME TOO. lol
_________________ mariane 16 x 28 AG doughboy vinyl pool with deep end, ~11900 gals. media master 150# sand filter using zeosand, 1.4 sq ft filter area, 1 hp, 10 amp doughboy power pak pump. in sunny but fickle detroit michigan.
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mariane
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Post subject: Re: high chlorine and can't shock?  Posted: May 26th, 2012, 3:16 pm |
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Joined: May 8th, 2012, 9:34 pm Posts: 47 Location: Michigan
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Finally there. FC stayed constant from last night to this morning. CC minimum. No uninvited swimming guests (ducks). Now if it would stop raining, temps warm up, and the sun come out we could go swimming. Thanks for everyone's help. BBB. 
_________________ mariane 16 x 28 AG doughboy vinyl pool with deep end, ~11900 gals. media master 150# sand filter using zeosand, 1.4 sq ft filter area, 1 hp, 10 amp doughboy power pak pump. in sunny but fickle detroit michigan.
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