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Txmat
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Post subject: Re: HELP i'm in a complete mess and don't know which way to  Posted: July 2nd, 2012, 9:09 am |
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Joined: June 18th, 2010, 8:01 am Posts: 422 Location: San Antonio
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Yeah, safe up to shock level. I think you will see a little cloudy for awhile due to the shock. When you are comfortable with your chlorine level and it has circulated in the pool for awhile, you might want to turn the pump off for a few hours and let the flock settle and then vacuum. At least that is what I remember having to do and one reason I have never flocked again. It just took a long time to get all that stuff out. On the other hand you are much better off being able to see the bottom. All your numbers look good. CH is not a problem for vinyl pools so you do not need to worry about it unless it goes way off the chart and yours isn't. The level is probably a function of your fill water and will probably be fairly stable. What is your TA? That you will want to work to get down to the 70-80 level. On Thursday, check your CYA level and make sure it is at least 30. Once you are done with the shocking process you will want to raise the CYA to the 40-50 level.
_________________ Larry in Texas
Above ground 7,700 gallons, 19 inch sand filter ( 2 sq. ft.), with a WaterWay Hi-Flo Pump with an A.O. Smith 1 hp SF 1.0 motor.
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NikiBelle
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Post subject: Re: HELP i'm in a complete mess and don't know which way to  Posted: July 2nd, 2012, 10:25 am |
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Joined: May 15th, 2012, 9:01 pm Posts: 446 Location: Knoxville, TN
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Well i'll tell ya this...
My pH has been low since the beginning of the swamp/swap when i had to add the acid to lower it. It was reading 6.8 or lower (thats as low as the number went). I've worried about it here and there so last week (and i posted this) i raised it some. The calculator said to put double the Borax that i actually had on hand, to get it to go to 7.2.
So, i put 1/2 what it said to put. Now my pH is 7.5...so it raised it a lot. Thinking that's because my TA is high and that also made my TA higher?
Still trying to figure out how all this chemistry works together...
But, yeah i won't worry for now...
_________________ 10,700 gal Round; Vinyl liner, New Hayward pump ProFlo 1.5....150 lb. sand filter. Baqua to BBB.....BBB is the only way to go!!!! A Cinderella story with a "happy ever after" ending.
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techguy
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Post subject: Re: HELP i'm in a complete mess and don't know which way to  Posted: July 2nd, 2012, 5:37 pm |
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It was probably nice to be in the pool without a brush, vacuum, or rake in your hand. Did you ever get that margarita that was prescribed?
_________________ -- Guy -- 10K gallons in 21' Round 52 inch wall Aqualeader AG, Hayward Power Flow LX 1.5 HP pump motor, Hayward Perflex EC50AC DE filter w/Cellulose, Wide mouth skimmer, faded old Hayward AquaBug. TF-100
I never backwash. If I need a recharge, I open and clean the fingers, everytime.
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BethyM
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Post subject: Re: HELP i'm in a complete mess and don't know which way to  Posted: July 2nd, 2012, 5:42 pm |
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Great news! Glad you were finally able to enjoy the fruit of your labor. Yeah!
_________________ Vogue Vectra 30' Round (21,200 gallons), Waterway 2HP 2-speed, 27" sand filter - TF100 -- Southern IL - Install 06/2012 Last minute upgrade from 27' due to error in dealer inventory *yikes*
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jule
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Post subject: Re: HELP i'm in a complete mess and don't know which way to  Posted: July 2nd, 2012, 5:49 pm |
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Joined: May 1st, 2010, 6:45 am Posts: 139 Location: New London, Wisconsin
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NikiBelle wrote: Had an amazing time playing in the pool today. Came in took a much needed nap, went out played again.
I will get that FC level up now and see how she does tonight.
Felt wonderful. It was nice to be in there and actually see my feet!!!! That's WONDERFUL Nicki! Now where's the pic?  lol!
_________________ 22 ft octagon, inground, 4 ft ave depth - figured @ 11,400 gallons, well water Steel walls with sand bottom and vinyl liner : under full sun Harmsco Betterfilter w/14 paper cartridges 1 hp Hayward motor
Baqua to Chlorine in 2010. ~Wisconsin~
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Txmat
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Post subject: Re: HELP i'm in a complete mess and don't know which way to  Posted: July 2nd, 2012, 6:05 pm |
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Joined: June 18th, 2010, 8:01 am Posts: 422 Location: San Antonio
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I agree with Leebo, don't worry about TA now. It is not too high. After you get through with the shocking process, you can start working on getting the TA down. Having vinyl pools we do not have to be as careful with TA & CH as plaster pool owners.
_________________ Larry in Texas
Above ground 7,700 gallons, 19 inch sand filter ( 2 sq. ft.), with a WaterWay Hi-Flo Pump with an A.O. Smith 1 hp SF 1.0 motor.
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jule
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Post subject: Re: HELP i'm in a complete mess and don't know which way to  Posted: July 2nd, 2012, 7:08 pm |
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Joined: May 1st, 2010, 6:45 am Posts: 139 Location: New London, Wisconsin
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Leebo wrote: NO NO NO
You weren't playing in the pool, you were helping the filter by stirring the water around! ha ha ha! So THAT's what it's called? So if I get in tomorrow withOUT the brush, that's legal? yay! 
_________________ 22 ft octagon, inground, 4 ft ave depth - figured @ 11,400 gallons, well water Steel walls with sand bottom and vinyl liner : under full sun Harmsco Betterfilter w/14 paper cartridges 1 hp Hayward motor
Baqua to Chlorine in 2010. ~Wisconsin~
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NikiBelle
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Post subject: Re: HELP i'm in a complete mess and don't know which way to  Posted: July 3rd, 2012, 8:33 am |
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Joined: May 15th, 2012, 9:01 pm Posts: 446 Location: Knoxville, TN
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Mornin!!!!! Still somewhat cloudy but can still see the bottom. Here is the latest pic....  
_________________ 10,700 gal Round; Vinyl liner, New Hayward pump ProFlo 1.5....150 lb. sand filter. Baqua to BBB.....BBB is the only way to go!!!! A Cinderella story with a "happy ever after" ending.
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Txmat
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Post subject: Re: HELP i'm in a complete mess and don't know which way to  Posted: July 3rd, 2012, 9:04 am |
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Good Morning - That pool is sure looking good. You are going to have a Happy 4th tomorrow! Your in a kind of no man's land at this point and just need to follow your instincts. Part of the cloudiness is probably due to dead organisms that are still in the water and part probably due to flock. The shocking protocol states you continue to keep the FC up and the pump and filter running until the pool is clear and the flock protocol calls for the pump off so the flock can settle out. Continuing shocking will clear the pool as the filter captures the flock. Stopping the pump and letting the flock settle and then vacuuming will clear the pool as well and maybe faster. But you run the risk of algae coming back. What I would probably due is bring my pool to shock level, brush, let the pump run for an hour, check my chlorine level and make sure it was still at or near shock level and then turn the pump off for six hours, then vacuum, then replace water, bring chlorine to shock level and leave my pump on. Tomorrow, would just keep the pool at shock level and enjoy the pool and then on Thursday, if the pool was still cloudy, I would repeat today's regimen. Now that is what I would do, but others might take a different course. You really are pass the worse and you can begin to enjoy the pool. One other thing, if you are going to have little kids in the water tomorrow then I probably would let the FC level come down from shock tomorrow until the kids were out of the water. It's safe to be in the water when it is at shock level or lower, but since little kids tend to swallow water, I just am more comfortable at 8 or lower. Anything above 4 should keep new algae from growing as long as it is not too long at that level, but that will not be high enough to clear the pool.
_________________ Larry in Texas
Above ground 7,700 gallons, 19 inch sand filter ( 2 sq. ft.), with a WaterWay Hi-Flo Pump with an A.O. Smith 1 hp SF 1.0 motor.
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NikiBelle
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Post subject: Re: HELP i'm in a complete mess and don't know which way to  Posted: July 3rd, 2012, 9:35 am |
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Joined: May 15th, 2012, 9:01 pm Posts: 446 Location: Knoxville, TN
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Sounds like great advice Txmat!!!!
No little kids around here, yet. Kids are grown and no grand-young'ens in the immediate future for me.
This morning.. FC 13 at 10:00...sun has been out since before 8 CC .5
Yes the pool is cloudy and it's hard to see from the pics but it's really less cloudy than those pics show. I can see the bottom all the way across the pool. I agree it's left over dead algae and flock. I thought i'd swim this afternoon, then turn off for about 6 hours and vacuum before it gets dark.
Also for the first time, it is beginning to sparkle in the sun some. I've not seen that until late yesterday and today. I suppose it does that as it gets more clear. It is a tad clearer today than yesterday as well.
Tomorrow i won't be home the biggest part of the day and tomorrow night i'm going out to see fireworks. So, I love your plan, i'll just have to wiggle in on days i'll be in the pool and days i won't be here. At night i do feel i need to keep bring it up to shock level for that good 12-14 hours of dark time.
I've heard some of these conversions take a month or longer. I started June 11. So, i'm still under a month. Hopefully i'll make that cut off for it to be complete. But, if not, i'm still so very happy with my pool right now. What a difference it makes to see, feel, smell clean water. This has been a two year process actually, of getting all sorts of advice from neighbors, the pool store and finally finding this site and finding all of ya'll. This site and all of you and your wisdom is the only thing that has worked.
I can't say enough how thankful i am. Truly.
_________________ 10,700 gal Round; Vinyl liner, New Hayward pump ProFlo 1.5....150 lb. sand filter. Baqua to BBB.....BBB is the only way to go!!!! A Cinderella story with a "happy ever after" ending.
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Txmat
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Post subject: Re: HELP i'm in a complete mess and don't know which way to  Posted: July 3rd, 2012, 9:57 am |
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You have a great plan and attitude and we all are happy for you. Thank you for the kind words. Most if not all of us have been in your shoes - at wits end - and then finding this site and working through the process with the help of others that have gone before. If we have been a little help then I know I speak for all we are glad we were here.
_________________ Larry in Texas
Above ground 7,700 gallons, 19 inch sand filter ( 2 sq. ft.), with a WaterWay Hi-Flo Pump with an A.O. Smith 1 hp SF 1.0 motor.
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