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 Post subject: Hayward vs Circupool RJ45 SWG
PostPosted: July 7th, 2010, 10:27 am 
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Anyone have experience on the Circupool RJ45? How do they compare to the hayward systems? Sale on the Circupool right now, but I want to make sure what I buy will last. So confusing!



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 Post subject: Re: Hayward vs Circupool RJ45 SWG
PostPosted: July 7th, 2010, 11:03 am 
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Circu Pool is relatively new, so we don't have any long term reliability info. Hayward has been around for a long time and is one of the more reliable brands, though hardly perfect. They are comparable in features.

Keep in mind that Circu Pool and Compu Pool are the same except for the color of the plastic. Compu Pool units are usually less expensive, though with the sale that might not be true right now.



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 Post subject: Re: Hayward vs Circupool RJ45 SWG
PostPosted: July 7th, 2010, 12:50 pm 
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becaue there does not seem to be one winner in the swg game, I am reluctant to pull the trigger and buy one. I know it is the right move for me, but there are so many different models that it is intimidating. None of them appear have exceptional reliability. The cirupool rj45 was enticing because of the 7 year warranty. (selling at the R30 price right now). No local service though in CT .. it's out of Texas. I would think just about everyone services Hayward.



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 Post subject: Re: Hayward vs Circupool RJ45 SWG
PostPosted: July 8th, 2010, 4:01 am 
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it's not 7 year warranty, it's just a marketing ploy

it's 2 years on electronic box, 1 full year on the cell, and 4 years pro-rata on the cell.

if you calculate using their way, most of the manufacturers will have around 7 years warranty :)

Autochlor would be 6, being 3 years on electronics and 3 years of full warranty on the cell



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 Post subject: Re: Hayward vs Circupool RJ45 SWG
PostPosted: July 11th, 2010, 7:47 am 
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I installed a Circupool RJ60 this spring. Easy to install and has performed perfectly. Bought online for 1k. Smaller units (RJ45?) are cheaper.



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 Post subject: Re: Hayward vs Circupool RJ45 SWG
PostPosted: August 13th, 2010, 4:53 pm 
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Strannik,

Can you please explain the Circupool warranty in a little more detail? What is a pro-rata warranty? Thanks!

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 Post subject: Re: Hayward vs Circupool RJ45 SWG
PostPosted: August 13th, 2010, 9:01 pm 
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"4 years pro-rata" means that if it fails after one year they pay 75% of the replacement cell, if it fails after two years they pay 50% of the replacement cell, if it fails after three years they pay 25% of the replacement cell, and if it fails after four year they don't pay anything.



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 Post subject: Re: Hayward vs Circupool RJ45 SWG
PostPosted: August 14th, 2010, 2:30 am 
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yeah basically what Jason said. although sometimes it runs by the month rather than year.

when Autochlor used to have pro-rata warranty, we had a big spreadsheet which was outlining how much discount you get in a given month.

in the end it was decided to ditch it because it made dealers unhappy as it only applied to end user when the cell is purchased through the manufacturer.

so if a customer came to a dealer he couldn't use it, so it was taking away sales from them. plus it's a nightmare to manage.



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 Post subject: Re: Hayward vs Circupool RJ45 SWG
PostPosted: August 15th, 2010, 6:50 pm 
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Strannik wrote:
yeah basically what Jason said. although sometimes it runs by the month rather than year.

when Autochlor used to have pro-rata warranty, we had a big spreadsheet which was outlining how much discount you get in a given month.

in the end it was decided to ditch it because it made dealers unhappy as it only applied to end user when the cell is purchased through the manufacturer.

so if a customer came to a dealer he couldn't use it, so it was taking away sales from them. plus it's a nightmare to manage.


How much do you sell Autochlors for (~40k gallon size)?

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 Post subject: Re: Hayward vs Circupool RJ45 SWG
PostPosted: August 16th, 2010, 4:01 am 
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i pm'd you the prices



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PostPosted: October 12th, 2010, 3:19 pm 
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JasonLion wrote:
"4 years pro-rata" means that if it fails after one year they pay 75% of the replacement cell, if it fails after two years they pay 50% of the replacement cell, if it fails after three years they pay 25% of the replacement cell, and if it fails after four year they don't pay anything.


Here is how the CircuPool warranty actually works; For residential pool use, it covers all components including the cell for seven years following the purchase date. Like a car battery or anything that get's used up, it is prorated. During the first year, the owner pays nothing for any needed parts. During the second year, they pay 20%, then 40% during the third year, 60% during the fourth year, and 80% during the fifth, sixth, and seventh year. Keep in mind that the cost of the replacement cells is low compared to other brands...the most popular 5-Blade cell is presently only $375. In a worst case scenario, if a cell failed one day into the fifth year, the owners cost to start over with a new cell would be $300 or $75 per year. Doing the same math with other brands, this appears to compare very well.



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 Post subject: Re: Hayward vs Circupool RJ45 SWG
PostPosted: April 3rd, 2012, 5:14 pm 
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Don, I see you own several websites with circupool SWCG for sale. Where are they manufactured & by whom? Do you make them in Texas? Or are you just the importer?


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PostPosted: April 4th, 2012, 10:07 am 
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Our company, Discount Salt Pool, is the exclusive distributor for CircuPool in the USA. The units are made by Compu Pool in Australia, in business since 1979.



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