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Cole
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Post subject: drain or to not drain  Posted: May 29th, 2011, 9:50 pm |
Joined: May 3rd, 2011, 5:42 pm Posts: 26 Location: Berea. KY
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hello all, i have a 12,500 gal. softswim AG pool. this year in start-up chemicals is was $294.00!! RIDICULOUS. $20 for clairifier $24 for algicide $30 for bactericide $20 for balance pak 100 and 200 $25 for balance pak 300. now to let my blood pressure go down. would it be cheaper in the spring to just drain the pool down to 5-10" and buy 1 bottle of A, B, and C instead of all that **** they sucker you into like stain control, poly-crap blue. and the rest of it. 
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_________________ Cole Pocius 15'x30'x52" AG, 1 HP Hayward Power Flo, Hayward per-flex D.E filter, Aqua luminator. chlorine, baracuda beta. vinyl liner, 12,500 k gallon
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zea3
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Post subject: Re: drain or to not drain  Posted: May 29th, 2011, 10:09 pm |
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Joined: July 10th, 2009, 3:08 pm Posts: 2637 Location: Upper Texas Coast
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Hi, I am not as familiar with biguanide pool systems, but as far as I know the only substitute for the biguanide would be to switch over to chlorine. You have to have some type of sanitizer in the water for it to be safe and I am not aware of a generic biguanide.
All the balance pak stuff has a generic equivalent. Look at the active ingredient on the label and google it to find the generic. A properly sanitized pool will not need algaecide and should not need clarifier.
_________________ TFP Moderator Helpful links: TF Test Kits,TFP Pool School, Pool Calculator Vogue 21" round AG, Pentair 1 hp 2 speed pump, 36 sq ft DE filter, Upper Texas Coast
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JasonLion
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Post subject: Re: drain or to not drain  Posted: May 29th, 2011, 10:13 pm |
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Joined: May 7th, 2007, 3:03 pm Posts: 23723 Location: Silver Spring, MD
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We call that being pool stored.
You don't need clarifier, or algaecide, or bactericide. Balance Pak 100 is exactly the same stuff as baking soda, and grocery store baking soda is not only one quarter of the price, it is also a higher grade purer version. Balance Pak 200 is the same chemical as washing soda, also available from the grocery store for less, though not quite as dramatic a savings, and so on. It depends on the pool, but I would guess you could do the entire startup for $30 to $50, or less if you are really careful.
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Richard320
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Post subject: Re: drain or to not drain  Posted: May 29th, 2011, 11:14 pm |
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Joined: January 6th, 2010, 10:54 am Posts: 2453 Location: San Dimas, CA (LA County)
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As long as you're in that deep, what's another C-note? Head over to http://tftestkits.net and order up a TF100 with the speedstir option. You'll be able to test the water and add only what you need, rather than going yo-yo route that the pool store guides you down, and next year at startup, you'll be able to do it faster and cheaper too.
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renohuskerdu
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Post subject: Re: drain or to not drain  Posted: May 30th, 2011, 7:04 am |
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Joined: August 23rd, 2010, 2:07 pm Posts: 41 Location: Alsace, France
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Now hold on there my friend, you must not shoot off too quickly! Remember that water is espensive, here in France it is cost me $130 to refill my pool water! And because of the global warming cooling their is no rain now and my well is empty, so I cannot use that water. But then you will find the good advise here to fix your water. This is the best list here I am found.
_________________ Pool-store refugee, Alsace France. AG 5k gal, sand filter, Brominator, pump 15 gpm (3.5 m3 / hour). Thanks to you guys we are switching to bleach from the supermarché!
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daddybug
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Post subject: Re: drain or to not drain  Posted: May 30th, 2011, 7:31 pm |
Joined: March 29th, 2011, 1:35 am Posts: 47 Location: Hazelton, PA
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renohuskerdu wrote: Now hold on there my friend, you must not shoot off too quickly! Remember that water is espensive, here in France it is cost me $130 to refill my pool water! And because of the global warming cooling their is no rain now and my well is empty, so I cannot use that water. But then you will find the good advise here to fix your water. This is the best list here I am found. Maybe your well will return when Global warming cooling warming returns...
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renohuskerdu
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Post subject: Re: drain or to not drain  Posted: May 31st, 2011, 2:27 am |
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Joined: August 23rd, 2010, 2:07 pm Posts: 41 Location: Alsace, France
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Yes then well maybe that you are right now. They say it will rain finaly today, we have now 2 month with allmost no rain!
_________________ Pool-store refugee, Alsace France. AG 5k gal, sand filter, Brominator, pump 15 gpm (3.5 m3 / hour). Thanks to you guys we are switching to bleach from the supermarché!
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Cole
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Post subject: Re: drain or to not drain  Posted: June 9th, 2011, 10:29 pm |
Joined: May 3rd, 2011, 5:42 pm Posts: 26 Location: Berea. KY
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hello, renohuskerdu i contacted kingston terill my current water district and they said it would be $60-$70. so next spring i will be draining my pool. Thanks for all the help guys. 
_________________ Cole Pocius 15'x30'x52" AG, 1 HP Hayward Power Flo, Hayward per-flex D.E filter, Aqua luminator. chlorine, baracuda beta. vinyl liner, 12,500 k gallon
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