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crustfan
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Post subject: Differences Between Pool Calculator and Pool School  Posted: August 3rd, 2012, 10:09 am |
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Joined: July 6th, 2012, 7:25 pm Posts: 33 Location: Palm Coast, FL
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pool-school/chlorine_cya_chart_shockIf I plug in the values from the SWG chart from above, I get different numbers in the suggested FC blue section for shock and SWG target. For instance, at 60 CYA, it reads 3 and 18 whereas the table reads 4 and 16. When I mouse over the 3 it confirms SWG FC Target 3 when it should be 4. Maybe it's supposed to say min target in the calculator? Also what does Normal mean. The range for a 60 CYA from 5-9 seems way too high for a SWG.
_________________ Jerry 30' x 15' ~ 15,000 gallon pool & spa, Diamond Brite, Hayward Aqua Logic PS-4, Turbo Cell T-Cell 15 SWG, EcoStar SP3400VSP pump , Star Clear Plus C17502 filter, Rheem P-M206A-EP-C heater, Caretaker 99 5-port 1.5 inch valve
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chem geek
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Post subject: Re: Differences Between Pool Calculator and Pool School  Posted: August 3rd, 2012, 12:18 pm |
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Joined: March 28th, 2007, 2:40 pm Posts: 6722 Location: San Rafael, CA USA
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The SWG level in The Pool Calculator is the same as the Minimum level in the Pool School chart. The Normal range low end is the same as the Minimum in the Pool School while the high end isn't in the Pool School chart. It is the Shock level that deviates from the Pool School chart the most where the Pool School chart is more aggressive. For shocking, there isn't a magic single level -- the higher the chlorine level, the faster chlorine will work. On the other hand, the minimum chlorine level (Normal for manual dosing; SWG when using a saltwater chlorine generator) is more of an absolute in that it is the level of chlorine needed to kill green algae faster than it can reproduce under almost all circumstances (i.e. regardless of algae nutrient level).
_________________ 16,000 gallon outdoor in-ground 16'x32' plaster pool; Pentair Intelliflo VF pump; Pentair IntelliTouch i9+3s control system; Jandy CL-340 square foot cartridge filter 12 Fafco solar panels; Purex Triton PowerMax 250 natural gas heater (200,000 BTU/hr output); automatic electric pool safety cover; 4-wheel pressure-side "The Pool Cleaner"
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crustfan
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Post subject: Re: Differences Between Pool Calculator and Pool School  Posted: August 3rd, 2012, 12:55 pm |
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Joined: July 6th, 2012, 7:25 pm Posts: 33 Location: Palm Coast, FL
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So I'll ignore "Normal" since I have a SWG. Since I set my primary source of chlorine as SWG, shouldn't the program remove the normal from view? It does seem like the way it's programmed that those fields need to be static. An explanation in the Suggested FC Levels notes would help to understand.
Also, in those notes it says "The target FC level is a minimum." In the CYA chart there are two different columns one for Min and one for Target. Is the target the min or as I would think the target is someplace between the min and max. When I hover over the SWG value, the text says it's the target when in fact it's the min.
Also the Jug size drop down box seems to have no function in the application.
_________________ Jerry 30' x 15' ~ 15,000 gallon pool & spa, Diamond Brite, Hayward Aqua Logic PS-4, Turbo Cell T-Cell 15 SWG, EcoStar SP3400VSP pump , Star Clear Plus C17502 filter, Rheem P-M206A-EP-C heater, Caretaker 99 5-port 1.5 inch valve
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chem geek
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Post subject: Re: Differences Between Pool Calculator and Pool School  Posted: August 3rd, 2012, 1:11 pm |
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Joined: March 28th, 2007, 2:40 pm Posts: 6722 Location: San Rafael, CA USA
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I agree that the SWG numbers are showing the minimum. In practice, that's what most people use as a target since an SWG usually keeps the FC level fairly stable if it is run mostly during the day. One might argue that a Target number for the SWG isn't needed in the pool school chart (though some might use the higher FC in the Target column for extra safety against varying demand or anything going wrong) and that the text in The Pool Calculator hover-help should call the SWG number a minimum. As for automatically changing what is shown based on the "Primary source of chlorine" type, that would be nice, but after Jason sold The Pool Calculator to pSIFlow Technology, there have been minimal or no changes to it. Same with the iPhone app.
_________________ 16,000 gallon outdoor in-ground 16'x32' plaster pool; Pentair Intelliflo VF pump; Pentair IntelliTouch i9+3s control system; Jandy CL-340 square foot cartridge filter 12 Fafco solar panels; Purex Triton PowerMax 250 natural gas heater (200,000 BTU/hr output); automatic electric pool safety cover; 4-wheel pressure-side "The Pool Cleaner"
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