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divnkd101
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Post subject: Deck/ Coping Sealers ???  Posted: April 12th, 2007, 7:25 pm |
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Joined: March 28th, 2007, 7:55 am Posts: 589 Location: Pearland, TX (Houston Suburb)
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I would like to get everyones opinion on Decking/ Coping sealers. I am in discussions with my pool builder concerning the look of my flagstone surround around the pool and spa. It looks as if it is fading/ lightening as time goes on. Furthermore, it tends to have that sandy, gritty feeling when you rub your hands across it. He dropped off a bottle of "Diamond Clear" Protect a Deck. This is what it says on the side of the bottle:
"Protects & Preserves Cool Deck, Aggregate, Masonry, Concrete, and Wood Decking.. Reduces Staining caused by Minerals, Algae, dirt, and grime.. Slip resistance is maintained.. Reduces Chalking, Cracking, and Flaking..Environmentally friendly.. Reduces water absorption."
Does anyone have experience with any type of sealer on flagstone? If yes, please chime in and give me some pros and cons. I am all ears. As it stands now, I plan to do a sample test this weekend on a piece I have left over from the build. Thanks for any input.... 
_________________ MIKE
21K Inground Custom w/ Spa (Gunite/Plaster), SWCG, Hayward Northstar, Polaris 280, Hayward Color Logics, Jandy PS-8
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SeanB
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Post subject:  Posted: April 12th, 2007, 7:45 pm |
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Joined: March 27th, 2007, 12:02 pm Posts: 2710 Location: Missouri City (suburb of Houston, TX)
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We had a wood deck with flagstone patio at our last house and I used an approved sealer. It prevented some of the staining that you can get, but in some areas, it showed a white-ish film when wet. It wasn't a big deal, but I noticed it. When dry, it did have a little more sheen (slightly darkened), which was nice.
Around our pool though, I don't have any plans to seal the flagstone. I figure a VERY light pressure washing a few times a year should keep it looking good.
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My Pool: 13K gal IG gunite with 7' spa, Pentair Cartridge Filter, Intellichlor IC40 SWG, Polaris 280 Cleaner, TF-100 Test Kit w/ salt test.
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divnkd101
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Post subject:  Posted: May 15th, 2007, 11:09 am |
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Joined: March 28th, 2007, 7:55 am Posts: 589 Location: Pearland, TX (Houston Suburb)
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It leaves no type of glossy finish, etc. Furthermore, the directions state that no masking, etc. is needed in/ around the pool. It dissipates within the pool.
_________________ MIKE
21K Inground Custom w/ Spa (Gunite/Plaster), SWCG, Hayward Northstar, Polaris 280, Hayward Color Logics, Jandy PS-8
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TheOne
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Post subject:  Posted: May 15th, 2007, 11:50 am |
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Joined: March 28th, 2007, 12:23 pm Posts: 167 Location: Houston, TX
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I recently sealed my flagstone coping and inlays.
Some types of flagstone are more durable than others. Ideally you would use a hardener first, then an impregnator/sealer after that. The hardener bonds deep in the stone and keeps it from flaking. The sealer repels water. There are sealers that do not change the color of the stone (stone looks dry) and there are color enhancers (stone looks wet).
I chose a color enhancer and a sealer all in one because I like the dark appearance of the Oklahome Wister flagstone that it gets when its wet.
The product I used is Enhancer Pro from http://www.stonetechpro.com/. It was very easy to apply with a 4" sponge roller and an extension handle. I only had about 200 sq ft and I was able to put 2 coats on in about an hour and a half.
So far I am very happy with the results. My flagstone looks nice and dark and produces much less dust than before.
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Caustik
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Post subject:  Posted: May 15th, 2007, 2:43 pm |
Joined: March 29th, 2007, 5:34 pm Posts: 51 Location: Southwestern Ontario
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divnkd101 wrote: It dissipates within the pool.
This part is concerning. I would think it would not be a bright idea to introduce any unnecessary chemicals into the pool. Hopefully chem geek or one of the other pro's will chime in on what dropping this stuff into your pool water will do.
If its truly harmless I would not mind sealing the concrete and interlock around my pool.
_________________ 62,800 Litre IG Vinyl Sand Filter 1HP Super Pump Clearwater/Zodiac LM2-24S SWG Aquabot Turbo Robot Cleaner 250K NG Heater
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divnkd101
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Post subject:  Posted: May 15th, 2007, 3:52 pm |
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Joined: March 28th, 2007, 7:55 am Posts: 589 Location: Pearland, TX (Houston Suburb)
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I definitely had my concerns. The kids were not allowed in for at least a day. Plus, I did have the pumps on and running. The overspray was so small during application and water tested fine the following day. 
_________________ MIKE
21K Inground Custom w/ Spa (Gunite/Plaster), SWCG, Hayward Northstar, Polaris 280, Hayward Color Logics, Jandy PS-8
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stevenbrla
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Post subject:  Posted: September 19th, 2007, 8:27 pm |
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Joined: May 10th, 2007, 8:53 pm Posts: 234 Location: Baton Rouge, LA
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TheOne,
How's your sealer looking?
Anyone else with sealer experience (good or bad)?
I'm wanting to seal my "old" bricks that I used for coping and spa veneer, and also the "bluestone" that I used for spillover.
Ideally, my sealer would achieve a wet look, but not leave a glossy film... probably too much too ask... but hey, have not because you ask not...
steve
_________________ 18,000 gallon gunite free form, with spa, 4x160, EasyTouch, SWCG, Pentair cartr filter, Colorlogic lights.
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divnkd101
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Post subject:  Posted: September 20th, 2007, 7:33 am |
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Joined: March 28th, 2007, 7:55 am Posts: 589 Location: Pearland, TX (Houston Suburb)
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Steve,
Diamond Clear did not do the job. I have moved on to a new type sealer I am trying. I was planning on putting a review in this weekend. I am at work and I don't have all the information with me. My PB dropped off a quart and asked me to be the Guinea Pig with testing. So far, the one section of Flagstone I have done is sealed (Beads up when water falls on it) where on other sections, the water just soaks in. I will get my review in this weekend with some photos as well.
_________________ MIKE
21K Inground Custom w/ Spa (Gunite/Plaster), SWCG, Hayward Northstar, Polaris 280, Hayward Color Logics, Jandy PS-8
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stevenbrla
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Post subject:  Posted: September 20th, 2007, 5:33 pm |
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Joined: May 10th, 2007, 8:53 pm Posts: 234 Location: Baton Rouge, LA
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Good deal, looking forward to reading it.
My larger concern is my "old brick" coping and spa veneer. I don't expect either to deteriorate quickly, but it won't be easily replaced either. I love the way it looks wet... dark, but not glossy... seems hard to duplicate with a sealer.
My spillover is supposedly "Tennessee bluestone"... I like it, but i could be relatively easily replaced if needed. Then again, its wetted daily, so I'm thinking that it should be easier to make "look" good.... since it's basically hid by the water running over it.... but of course, it's pretty susceptable to erosion, and perhaps corrosion.
A good puzzle to be solved...
_________________ 18,000 gallon gunite free form, with spa, 4x160, EasyTouch, SWCG, Pentair cartr filter, Colorlogic lights.
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GregH
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Post subject: Re: Deck/ Coping Sealers ???  Posted: January 23rd, 2010, 4:20 pm |
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Joined: August 5th, 2009, 7:06 pm Posts: 22 Location: Austin, TX
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I followed TheOne's link above, and found a different product specifically for SW pools. Does anyone have any experience with this product?
DuPont™ StoneTech® Professional Salt Water Resistant Sealer Features and Benefits • High performance protection against salt water damage • For natural stone and masonry surfaces around salt water pools • Protection against water-based stains • Preserves natural look • Easy-to-use, water-based formula
_________________ 12,300 gal plaster pool – new, started Dec 2008. Hayward ProGrid DE6020 Filter, Hayward TriStar 2HP 2-speed pump, Aqua Rite Chlorine Generator with T-Cell-15, Polaris 360 cleaner. Heated by the Texas sun.
LifeSpas LS6800XP Spa with Genesis Bromine Generator.
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dmc123
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Post subject: Re: Deck/ Coping Sealers ???  Posted: August 3rd, 2011, 5:28 pm |
Joined: July 7th, 2011, 4:33 pm Posts: 3
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Has anyone sealed fladstone successfully. Was there a SWG being used? Im having some deteriooration but dont know if its the salt or traffic. I want to treat the stone but dont know what to use. thanks
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brian
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Post subject: Deck/ Coping Sealers ???  Posted: December 7th, 2011, 9:40 pm |
Joined: October 12th, 2011, 7:53 am Posts: 25 Location: Frisco, TX
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I'd like to know this too. New pool. Tennessee crab orchard coping and walls.
_________________ Size 13,000 gal | Filtration Jandy DE 60 | Sanitation PLC1400 SWG, Rainbow 320 | Placement in-ground (IG) | Coping Tennessee Crab Orchard Finish pebble smooth Tahoe Blue | Pumps Intelliflo VS+SVRS 3.0HP main | Lighting Jandy LED Spa/Pool Location Frisco TX US
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