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JasonLion
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Post subject:  Posted: May 27th, 2008, 12:56 pm |
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Sure, you can add salt without getting a SWG and it will improve the water feel. Usually 2000 ppm of salt will do it, but you can adjust that for your personal preference.
_________________ 19K gal, vinyl, 1/2 HP WhisperFlo pump, 200 sqft cartridge filter, AutoPilot Digital SWG, Dolphin Dynamic cleaning robot TFP Admin. Creator of The Pool Calculator. Other handy links: Support this site, TF Test Kits, Pool School
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JasonLion
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Post subject:  Posted: May 27th, 2008, 2:47 pm |
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You can use solar salt, sold for water softeners. You want the crystals in the blue bag, 99+% pure salt without any additives. Avoid rust/iron fighter/remover. Places like Lowes and Home Depot have it.
I suggest adding one bag at a time, giving it a day to dissolve, and seeing how you like it. Then try another and so on and see how things go. Another approach is to get the AquaChek salt test strips, measure your current level, and add salt to about 2000 ppm.
_________________ 19K gal, vinyl, 1/2 HP WhisperFlo pump, 200 sqft cartridge filter, AutoPilot Digital SWG, Dolphin Dynamic cleaning robot TFP Admin. Creator of The Pool Calculator. Other handy links: Support this site, TF Test Kits, Pool School
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AnnaK
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Post subject:  Posted: May 27th, 2008, 3:05 pm |
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Joined: July 15th, 2007, 7:21 am Posts: 1123 Location: Eastern Pennsylvania
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We added salt to our pool last season and loved the way the water felt. Our pool is 12,000 gallons and we added 4 bags of the solar salt. If you do this on a bright sunny day the salt crystals on the bottom of the pool will sparkle and you'll feel like you're swimming over a layer of diamonds. I'm looking forward to this year's 'salt day'.
AnnaK
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AnnaK
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Post subject:  Posted: May 27th, 2008, 8:25 pm |
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Joined: July 15th, 2007, 7:21 am Posts: 1123 Location: Eastern Pennsylvania
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The salt will add some chlorine but it appears to be minimal. I never noticed any difference in my tests and made no special adjustments to my water chemistry.
AnnaK
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12,000 gal AGP, Hayward sand filter, Pentair 2-speed pump, timer. Please visit our Pool Issues pages for information about step weights, managing the solar cover, and PoolSkim.
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meatloaf
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Post subject:  Posted: May 31st, 2008, 8:09 pm |
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Joined: February 10th, 2008, 8:54 am Posts: 344 Location: Gilbert AZ
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What are the pro's & con's to just adding salt to a pool? Will it make the water softer? Also how much should I add to a 10K pool?
Thanks
_________________ My pool is a 10,500 gallon (420 Sq Ft ) kidney shape. 15 Quik-Klean floor jets and a hand made sheer decent waterfeature. STA-RITE HRPB30, Sand filter 30" 98 GPM, 1 HP Maxi-Glas 2 pump, BBB Method, Taylor K-2005 test kit, Tightwatt self adjusting pool timer. http://www.tightwatt.com/ 50 Watt 12V low-voltage pond light illuminates the pool at night for a nice soft glow. Pics here, http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v643/MEATLOAF2/Pool/ 250 gallon stand-alone hot tub. Got it FREE! Pics here, http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ ... Hot%20Tub/ I don't press 1 for English.
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JasonLion
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Post subject:  Posted: May 31st, 2008, 8:22 pm |
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Salt improves the "feel" of the water. The experience is subjective, not everyone notices it, but many people like it a lot.
The disadvantages are the small extra expense and a small increase in the risk of corrosion. Corrosion is usually trivial, but some kinds of softer natural stone might be affected over a long period of time.
You can add one bag of salt at a time till it feels nice, or get some salt test strips and find out your current level and the adjust to somewhere around 2000 ppm. You can calculate amounts of salt using my Pool Calculator, see the link in my signature.
_________________ 19K gal, vinyl, 1/2 HP WhisperFlo pump, 200 sqft cartridge filter, AutoPilot Digital SWG, Dolphin Dynamic cleaning robot TFP Admin. Creator of The Pool Calculator. Other handy links: Support this site, TF Test Kits, Pool School
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meatloaf
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Post subject:  Posted: May 31st, 2008, 10:12 pm |
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Joined: February 10th, 2008, 8:54 am Posts: 344 Location: Gilbert AZ
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One more question. Will the salt help to reduce my CH levels. Right now, due to the hard water here in Arizona, my CH is approx 475.
Thanks
_________________ My pool is a 10,500 gallon (420 Sq Ft ) kidney shape. 15 Quik-Klean floor jets and a hand made sheer decent waterfeature. STA-RITE HRPB30, Sand filter 30" 98 GPM, 1 HP Maxi-Glas 2 pump, BBB Method, Taylor K-2005 test kit, Tightwatt self adjusting pool timer. http://www.tightwatt.com/ 50 Watt 12V low-voltage pond light illuminates the pool at night for a nice soft glow. Pics here, http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v643/MEATLOAF2/Pool/ 250 gallon stand-alone hot tub. Got it FREE! Pics here, http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ ... Hot%20Tub/ I don't press 1 for English.
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mac4lyfe
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Post subject:  Posted: May 31st, 2008, 10:42 pm |
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I would recommend testing your salt levels before adding any. I have a 30,000 gallong pool and was about to add a SWG, so I bought 20 -40lb bags of salt from Lowes (the pool calculator shows I needed 753 lbs). I added 10 bags to the pool and let it mix for a couple of days. I checked the salt level and I'm currently at 3100 PPM (which is good for the SWG) I'm glad I didn't add all 18 bags else my levels would have been sky high. Over the past few years my salt levels must have been high already without me knowing. That was pretty stupid not testing the salt level before adding.
Just a tip. Also my DE filter is Stainless steel and there could be potential corrosion problems with high salt so I'm rethinking whether I'm going with the SWG or not. Heck the salt is in the pool already anyway.
_________________ 30,000 gallon IG Gunite, 1.5 HP Hayward pump, Pentair Nautilus NS-48 DE filter, 2 skimmers, round 400 gallon spa overflow into pool. Recently added Hayward Swimpure Plus SWG.
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meatloaf
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Post subject:  Posted: June 2nd, 2008, 8:20 am |
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Joined: February 10th, 2008, 8:54 am Posts: 344 Location: Gilbert AZ
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Forgive me but, wouldn't the salt have a softening effect on the water?
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_________________ My pool is a 10,500 gallon (420 Sq Ft ) kidney shape. 15 Quik-Klean floor jets and a hand made sheer decent waterfeature. STA-RITE HRPB30, Sand filter 30" 98 GPM, 1 HP Maxi-Glas 2 pump, BBB Method, Taylor K-2005 test kit, Tightwatt self adjusting pool timer. http://www.tightwatt.com/ 50 Watt 12V low-voltage pond light illuminates the pool at night for a nice soft glow. Pics here, http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v643/MEATLOAF2/Pool/ 250 gallon stand-alone hot tub. Got it FREE! Pics here, http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ ... Hot%20Tub/ I don't press 1 for English.
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Poolsean
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Post subject:  Posted: June 2nd, 2008, 8:29 am |
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Joined: April 15th, 2007, 9:48 pm Posts: 1200 Location: Ft Lauderdale, Florida
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Not really. It gives the "Softwater feel" but does not create soft water. It's not removing calcium hardness.
A water softener exchanges calcium ions with sodium.
Adding salt makes it closer matched to the salinity level of your body, which gives it the improved feel.
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Shelley N
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Post subject:  Posted: June 2nd, 2008, 12:25 pm |
Joined: May 1st, 2007, 3:23 pm Posts: 145 Location: Denver, Colorado
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I would really LOVE to do this but haven't because I was afraid to with an above ground...but I see AnnaK has! Anna, have you noticed anything different since you added the salt? Plants dying near the pool? Dry salt on the deck? Pool rusting away?! I'm from Ft. Lauderdale, and know the salt in the air is hard on the cars and such there, but couldn't tell you if the air there has more salt in it than your pool water or not.
_________________ Shelley
Denver, CO
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JasonLion
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Post subject:  Posted: June 2nd, 2008, 1:32 pm |
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Ocean water has about 35,000 ppm of salt. Pool water would be between 1,000 and 4,000, no where near as salty.
_________________ 19K gal, vinyl, 1/2 HP WhisperFlo pump, 200 sqft cartridge filter, AutoPilot Digital SWG, Dolphin Dynamic cleaning robot TFP Admin. Creator of The Pool Calculator. Other handy links: Support this site, TF Test Kits, Pool School
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waterbug
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Post subject:  Posted: June 2nd, 2008, 2:52 pm |
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Joined: March 28th, 2007, 10:52 am Posts: 170 Location: Richmond, Va
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We certainly noticed no ill effects from adding the salt. We put in 80 lbs. last year and will be adding some more this year. Love the feel of it, and as Anna says, the sparkle is great!
_________________ 18 ft.52" Round Atrium AG -7600 gallons, Sand Filter, Vinyl liner, Royal Entrance Steps, 80 lbs.solarsalt
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Shelley N
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Post subject:  Posted: June 3rd, 2008, 11:51 am |
Joined: May 1st, 2007, 3:23 pm Posts: 145 Location: Denver, Colorado
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Oh I am so going to do this when we get back from vacation in 2 weeks!
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Denver, CO
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digger01
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Post subject:  Posted: June 3rd, 2008, 1:49 pm |
Joined: April 23rd, 2008, 3:35 pm Posts: 27
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We did this over the last couple of weeks. Got the test strips and our initial test was hard to read, near zero. Added 2or 3-80lb bags over two evenings (had my son poor into skimmer a little at a time, also placed a bag on the steps and made a large slice in the bag - 3 minutes to dissolve). We normally get 80 lbs bags of salt for the water conditioner. Next test read over 2200, but water was cold so I couldnt really feel anything diff. Added one more 80 lb bag, test read over 3000-done. Water feels much better, less eye redness even after 3 hrs of swimming, and my kids even remarked that they didnt need the gogles anymore. We do not have a swg yet.
Wish I did this last year LOL
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