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JasonLion
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Post subject: Re: Can I add Epsom Salt to my pool? (not a SWG pool)  Posted: November 25th, 2011, 7:35 pm |
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People sometimes add relatively small quantities of epsom salt to the pool to help make future calcium deposits easier to clean off. However the level of epsom salt normally used for therapeutic soaking would be corrosive to most metals in contact with the water (metal ladders, copper heat exchange coils in the heater, etc).
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SLand
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Post subject: Re: Can I add Epsom Salt to my pool? (not a SWG pool)  Posted: November 26th, 2011, 11:24 am |
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In reply to JohnT: Water can be posionous in high enough quantities. Actually our bodies need magnesium and most people have magnesium deficiencies. Magnesium Sulfate (Epsom Salt) is used for lots of things, including use as a compress or soak to reduce pain, promote healing and draw toxins out of the body.
I pour 4 lbs of it on top of me in a hot bath and soak in it for about an hour. No negative side effects at all. Just reduced pain. Now drinking it is a different matter. It's not toxic, but it will certainly help if you're a bit blocked up if you know what I mean.
I don't want sodium cloride in my pool. Neither of them are really good for you. Although our bodies need both, that is one thing most people are not deficient in!
Last edited by SLand on November 26th, 2011, 11:35 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Post subject: Re: Can I add Epsom Salt to my pool? (not a SWG pool)  Posted: November 26th, 2011, 12:04 pm |
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I have never heard of this being done in a pool, but for spa's some people add about 30 lbs of epsom salt for every 1,000 gallons of water. That should be safe for metals, though it might be a problem for natural stone work if water is splashing onto the stone and evaporating, leaving the epsom salt behind.
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Post subject: Re: Can I add Epsom Salt to my pool? (not a SWG pool)  Posted: November 26th, 2011, 7:51 pm |
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SLand wrote: In reply to JohnT: Water can be posionous in high enough quantities. Actually our bodies need magnesium and most people have magnesium deficiencies. Magnesium Sulfate (Epsom Salt) is used for lots of things, including use as a compress or soak to reduce pain, promote healing and draw toxins out of the body. But soaking in a tub is different from swimming, both in the amount of time you are in the water, and the parts of the body exposed, e.g eyes and mouth. Soaking in water with epsom salts CAN lead to magnesium poisoning.
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SLand
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Post subject: Re: Can I add Epsom Salt to my pool? (not a SWG pool)  Posted: November 26th, 2011, 9:25 pm |
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JohnT, are you sure you don't have magnesium confused with something else? Hypermagnesemia is very rare! Unless you have kidney problems or consume a lot of magnesium orally at one time, you shouldn't have a problem with magnesium. It would be even more rare to get magnesium poisoning by soaking in it - I'm not even sure that is possible due to the way magnesium is transported through body tissue versus the digestive system.
As for having the eyes and mouth exposed to the water, that wouldn't make a difference. The only way you would get too much magnesium is if you consumed a lot of it orally and had kidney problems. If you are healthy, your body gets rid of excess magnesium readily - you may have diarrhea, but you won't be "poisoned".
You may want to do some research on it. Magnesium Sulfate (Epsom Salt) is beneficial for many things.
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Post subject: Re: Can I add Epsom Salt to my pool? (not a SWG pool)  Posted: November 28th, 2011, 4:58 pm |
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SLand wrote: It would be even more rare to get magnesium poisoning by soaking in it - I'm not even sure that is possible due to the way magnesium is transported through body tissue versus the digestive system.
As for having the eyes and mouth exposed to the water, that wouldn't make a difference. The only way you would get too much magnesium is if you consumed a lot of it orally and had kidney problems. If you are healthy, your body gets rid of excess magnesium readily - you may have diarrhea, but you won't be "poisoned".
This is equally true for salt. The fact that most Americans eat too much salt is completely unrelated to pools. Saying that having salt in your pool is unhealthy is just plain wrong. High sulfate concentrations are destructive to cement products (well documented in the construction world) due to the high pressures that the sulfate minerals exert when they crystallize; this would translate directly to more rapid destruction of concrete or stone decking. Likely plaster too. Read this for more detail: http://www.pwtag.org/TECHSulphate%20Attack.phpYou are free to do whatever you like with your pool. We will not recommend things that we know will cause harm to infrastructure or equipment, nor are we in the business of promoting homeopathic remedies.
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Post subject: Re: Can I add Epsom Salt to my pool? (not a SWG pool)  Posted: November 28th, 2011, 8:29 pm |
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Some studies* indicate that high levels of magnesium could have an adverse effect on the cement in the plaster by converting calcium silicate hydrate to magnesium silicate hydrate and by reacting with calcium carbonate in the cement and in marble aggregate. In most cases, the magnesium concentration probably won't be high enough to have a strong reaction unless a lot of magnesium is added. However, in the absence of any clear benefit, I think that magnesium and/or sulfate should not be intentionally added to a plaster pool. Zodiac sells Zodiac Salt Cell Protector, which is magnesium sulfate. I think that the magnesium reduces the potential for calcium carbonate to precipitate. I don't know how much actual effect there is or why they use magnesium sulfate vs. magnesium chloride. *Note: The studies were not in swimming pools, so they might not be applicable. Swimming pools would have a much lower concentration of magnesium, and any effect might be negligible. However, I don't think that adding magnesium, especially large amounts, is a good idea.
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