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okstpat
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Post subject: Brand New Spa newbie! Need help.  Posted: August 18th, 2011, 4:03 pm |
Joined: August 18th, 2011, 3:49 pm Posts: 26 Location: Blanchard, Oklahoma
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I have had my spa for about a week and a half and it has a continous ozone pump. They told me to check ph once a week and add baking soda to raise it or ph decreaser (that they provided) to lower it. Throw one bromine tablet in the skimmer basket per month, and use something called spa magic that helps with foam and breaks down body oils etc. I have had problems with cloudy water, way to much foam. I have tried spa shock and defoamer with success on then foam, but can't seem to get the crystal clear water. They gave me the strips to test for ph, but I had trouble reading them so I went and bought a chlorine/ ph tester and have used that. My ph did get a little low on time and I added some baking soda and brought it up fairly quick. Once again I know absolutely nothing, but they tell me the ozone takes care of most and the 1 bromine tablet gives that a back up. What else do I need to be doing? What am I doing wrong? Any help would be great.
_________________ 30ft x 54in AGP 24,900 gallons 400 lbs High Rate Sand filter 2HP, 2 speed pump Pool Install April 2012
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okstpat
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Post subject: Re: Brand New Spa newbie! Need help.  Posted: August 19th, 2011, 1:36 pm |
Joined: August 18th, 2011, 3:49 pm Posts: 26 Location: Blanchard, Oklahoma
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Really no one has any suggestions?
_________________ 30ft x 54in AGP 24,900 gallons 400 lbs High Rate Sand filter 2HP, 2 speed pump Pool Install April 2012
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Bama Rambler
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Post subject: Re: Brand New Spa newbie! Need help.  Posted: August 19th, 2011, 1:52 pm |
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Joined: June 22nd, 2009, 7:06 pm Posts: 17178 Location: SouthWest Alabama
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I guess our spa guys are out soaking.  Maybe one will stop by soon and give you some advice.
_________________ Dave J. TFP Moderator 24' x 52" Round AGP. 1.5hp Dynamo pump. 24" Pentair Sand Dollar Filter. 45MHP2(3GPD) Peristaltic Pump Pool School Pool Calculator TF-Test Kit You can stop shocking when you pass the OCLT (You lose 1ppm or less FC overnight, & You have .5ppm CC's or less) & your water is clear.
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chem geek
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Post subject: Re: Brand New Spa newbie! Need help.  Posted: August 19th, 2011, 8:21 pm |
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Joined: March 28th, 2007, 2:40 pm Posts: 6964 Location: San Rafael, CA USA
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As you have found out, ozone alone does NOT keep a spa clean. Even with bromine, most users find they need to use chlorine about once a week or so to keep the water clear. Now that said, a new spa always has a lot of junk in it and the first fill will always be bad. This is why it is recommended on the first fill to use Spa System Flush to remove biofilms and clean out grease that may be left in the spa from manufacturing and wet testing. You then dump the water and you refill and should be good to go. I'll bet that if you do that, you'll be in much better shape. For a completely thorough cleaning, you can also superchlorinate (that procedure is described here, but I think if you use Spa System Flush and then drain/refill you'll be OK). Even with ozone, you'll likely need more bromine than you have been using. You can read more about Using Bromine in a Spa or if you decide to switch to chlorine with the Dichlor-then-bleach method then you can read Using Chlorine in a Spa instead.
Last edited by chem geek on September 13th, 2011, 10:52 am, edited 1 time in total.
_________________ 16,000 gallon outdoor in-ground 16'x32' plaster pool; Pentair Intelliflo VF pump; Pentair IntelliTouch i9+3s control system; Jandy CL-340 square foot cartridge filter 12 Fafco solar panels; Purex Triton PowerMax 250 natural gas heater (200,000 BTU/hr output); automatic electric pool safety cover; 4-wheel pressure-side "The Pool Cleaner"
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BBBliever
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Post subject: Re: Brand New Spa newbie! Need help.  Posted: August 19th, 2011, 11:15 pm |
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Joined: July 1st, 2011, 11:38 pm Posts: 216 Location: Central Califorina
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Please, disregard all advice you got from the spa store. It's obvious they know little of proper water chemistry/sanitation.
If you will follow the advice already posted on this site you will have crystal clear water that feels and smells great.
I use Chem Geeks dichlor/bleach method and sanitize my tub for less than $20 a year.
We will be happy to help you after you read up a bit to decide how you want to sanitize your tub and buy one of our recommended test kits. Without a good test kit we will not be able to help you.
_________________ 3500 gallon 14x42 Intex Ultra Frame 1/2 HP Intex 1600 sand filter/pump - Intex SWCG Two 4x20 Fafco solar panels. Taylor K-2006 Marquis spirit hot tub - Grill Dome ceramic grill/smoker
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okstpat
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Post subject: Re: Brand New Spa newbie! Need help.  Posted: September 13th, 2011, 9:36 am |
Joined: August 18th, 2011, 3:49 pm Posts: 26 Location: Blanchard, Oklahoma
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Thanks for the replies. I am installing a pool next spring also. Is there a way to get a good tester that will work for both the pool and spa? Even if one is chlorine and one is bromine? If so what test kit should I get?
_________________ 30ft x 54in AGP 24,900 gallons 400 lbs High Rate Sand filter 2HP, 2 speed pump Pool Install April 2012
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chem geek
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Post subject: Re: Brand New Spa newbie! Need help.  Posted: September 13th, 2011, 10:55 am |
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Joined: March 28th, 2007, 2:40 pm Posts: 6964 Location: San Rafael, CA USA
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You can use a good chlorine test kit for your bromine spa as well. So get either the TFTestkits TF-100 or the Taylor K-2006. When you test your spa, you will just multiply your chlorine reading by 2.25 (roughly 2) to get a bromine reading and you will skip the CC test. That's really the only difference.
_________________ 16,000 gallon outdoor in-ground 16'x32' plaster pool; Pentair Intelliflo VF pump; Pentair IntelliTouch i9+3s control system; Jandy CL-340 square foot cartridge filter 12 Fafco solar panels; Purex Triton PowerMax 250 natural gas heater (200,000 BTU/hr output); automatic electric pool safety cover; 4-wheel pressure-side "The Pool Cleaner"
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siska
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Post subject: Re: Brand New Spa newbie! Need help.  Posted: September 14th, 2011, 4:08 pm |
Joined: May 8th, 2011, 3:22 pm Posts: 30 Location: The Netherlands, Europe
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A little late (sorry) but indeed: the pipes will have been dirty. So, clean the tub, change the water and start over. Also, you may want to check your cartridge filter. If I let them get too dirty they don't filter the water properly. Just hose them down and let dry, while you place another filter in the tub. Hope you will be enjoying the tub!
_________________ Sunspa Monaco in the garden since March 2011.
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