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 Post subject: Bought a house...theres a hole in the backyard
PostPosted: April 24th, 2011, 8:04 pm 
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So we are closing on a house on Friday. Long range plan is to fix the pool. We have a 16' SW AGP now but have always wanted an inground....this isn't quite what we had in mind. How much work do you think we are looking at to get it fixed? Any ball-park estimates on the cost.

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PostPosted: April 24th, 2011, 8:09 pm 
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That may not be all that bad, though it will be difficult to be sure of anything until the cover is off and a more through inspection is done. At a minimum you need a new liner, probably a little repair work on the floor, which together might run you $3,000 to $5,000. There may be other problems, but nothing obvious from the pictures.



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PostPosted: April 24th, 2011, 8:43 pm 
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Thanks Jason, thats about the range we were thinking. For now is it best to cover from the elements and treat standing water or can I leave it open? After Friday I will take more pics and post them



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I'd have had a pool repair person give me an estimate before I closed on the house, unless you are getting an unbelievable value on the house/property with a big hole in the backyard.



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The cover isn't actually helping very much in that condition. Removing it won't make much difference.



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Thunder, Yes the deal on the house is very good. The acreage alone is almost worth what we paid for the house. Not having the pool is not a deal breaker at this point, we know we are buying a fixer upper.

Jason, I was thinking about getting a real IG Cover



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Well, you'll need one come winter, so you could buy it now if you wanted. It won't help anything right now and putting it on would just be unnecessary wear and tear on your new cover. I wouldn't bother.



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Thx, I'll just keep my eye open for a deal



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I'd be a little worried about those little ones. A safety cover would be a wise investment if you're weren't going to open it this season. Kids "forget" what their parents tell them all the time (well, at least mine do) and the idea of having an open 8' drop to concrete right in my backyard would keep me up at night.



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I would remove the diving board and store it far away from pool until the pool is safe for swimming. Having a diving board over an empty pool is asking for an injury.



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Pics are updated as of yesterday. What all should I be looking for in regards to getting this fixed?

New Liner
Hard dirt underneath fixed?
New coping?
Is the pump good enough?
Any plumbing likely needed?
Lights added?
The wife hates having a diving board and would rather I replace it with a slide...I think I convinced her to keep the board and just add a slide if we so desire.
Anything else I'm not thinking?



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PostPosted: December 23rd, 2011, 10:55 am 
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OK....let's try some numbers:

Liner: $2500 - $4000
Prep work beneath/sides of new liner: $0 (could be included with cost of new liner) - $1000
New Coping: roughly $4.00 - $8.00 linear ft.
New Filter/pump - no heater: $400 - $1000 (DE or Sand or Cartridge)
Lights: is there presently a light? Looks like there is none, since it would normally been under the DB. Electrical run and light: $1000
Winter Cover: $$300-$400 (plain vinyl with water bags) - $2500 - $3500 for Loop Loc or Meyco

Just some general figures for you.


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The filter might need a sand change, if only to see what the umbrella assembly (up pipe and laterals) look like (i.e undamaged). Easy to to and under $100 to do, assuming no damages inside.

The pump, it it work, keep using it. Might need a Go-Kit and motor. Under $300 if you do it. It isn't that hard.

The liner will likely cost a couple grand plus basic installation( area dependent, I get about $6-700). Until the wall foam is removed, we can't tell if it was put in as a way to boost the bill (some installers are less scrupulous than me). If it is needed, expect about $250 to $300.

The floor and hopper will need substantial work. The lack of water will have caused washouts, a condition that happens with sand bottoms and hoppers. I see rocks. Rocks and liners don't mix. I would rebuild the floor and hopper with V-Mix for its better resistance to washouts and denting. I expect this to be the biggest part of the bill. Close to $4500 and this needs a pro. It really isn't a DIY job.

The coping is fine. If it needs painting, cans of Krylon or Rustoleum.

Don't cover the pool until after the new liner is full. Safety covers rely on water being within 18" of it for support. A snow load will cause it to fall in. That will damage the springs and webbing significantly and would not be covered by a warranty.

A 2x12 board can be set as a ramp on the side of the steps so any critters can get out that are too small to negotiate the steps.

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Would looking into making this gunite be a mistake. I know it will take a few inches away the dimensions on each side. Would it last longer or should I not even look at that?
Also, I never knew sand bottom was so common...is there another option I should explore?



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That would cost just as much as having a new pool put in.


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there is no conversion. It would require the old pool be removed.

The reason you don't see sand bottoms made much any more is they are very delicate once water is removed or the liner leaks over a period of time. A V-Mix or cement bottom is much more resilient to damages under both situations.

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First quote came back at 10800 or 9800 if I sign within 5 days.
Includes
remove liner
dig out all sand in pile and fix wash out hole under wall
install new V16 liner
Install new wall foam
Install new liner(face plates, screws, gaskets)
install autopilot digital 60
remove and install new ladder cups
pressure test pipes
2 loads of water.
winter closing of pool included with job.

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See,s high to me.


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I thought the same...



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That actually doesn't sound too out of line. I see one of the line items is a new Poolpilot with a SC 60 cell. That's a couple thousand right there installed.



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