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thirstymate
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Post subject: Boost CYA before closing?  Posted: August 25th, 2011, 4:12 pm |
Joined: July 5th, 2011, 11:53 am Posts: 4
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Greetings all,
First a big thank you to all of the contributors on this board! I recently converted from Baquacil to a SWG after 13 years, the last 3 of which were a nightmare! Thanks to all of the information and expertise on this board, I was able to painlessly convert successfully!
I have an above ground 24' round pool. I have to plead guilty to not getting my CYA levels to where they need to be after the conversion. Currently, my CYA is close to 0 and from what I've read on here, it should be closer to 80 for a SWG. My question is do I go ahead and add the 8lbs or so of CYA to get it in range before I close it (which I plan to do this weekend), or do I simply bring my pool to Shock level for 25 hrs, clean the pool, then drain and put my winter cover on?
Thanks in advance for help.
Sean
_________________ 24' Round 48" High AG, Hayward PowerFlo LX pump 1.5HP, Hayward C1250 Cartridge Filter, Hayward Aqua Trol-HP SWG Located in Central Illinois
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linen
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Post subject: Re: Boost CYA before closing?  Posted: August 25th, 2011, 4:26 pm |
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Joined: July 30th, 2010, 8:56 am Posts: 1683 Location: Minnesota
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Welcome the the forum thristymate! Could you put your equipment/pool stats in your sig? Which swg do you have? Where do you live? By the way, you owe us some baqua converions pics 
_________________ Going to Pool School and learning the BBB method of pool care with a TF100 test kit that helps me use the Pool Calculator to properly maintain the water in my: Round AGP 11K gal (free on CL) with a deep end, Meteor 20" sand filter, Matrix 1hp 2spd, 4 2ftX20ft Sungrabber panels, Intex SWCG (copper bars removed), and Borates. Also a Rubadub hot tub and a UDS (Ugly Drum Smoker) poolside. If your water has you worried, do an Overnight Chlorine Loss Test (OCLT), and if you fail, then follow the Shocking Process until: 1. CC is less than 0.5 ppm, 2. An OCLT shows a loss of 1.0 ppm or less and, 3. The water is crystal clear.
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thirstymate
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Post subject: Re: Boost CYA before closing?  Posted: August 25th, 2011, 4:53 pm |
Joined: July 5th, 2011, 11:53 am Posts: 4
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Sig Added
I will definitely post pictures!
Thanks again for any help / advice!
_________________ 24' Round 48" High AG, Hayward PowerFlo LX pump 1.5HP, Hayward C1250 Cartridge Filter, Hayward Aqua Trol-HP SWG Located in Central Illinois
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linen
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Post subject: Re: Boost CYA before closing?  Posted: August 25th, 2011, 5:04 pm |
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Joined: July 30th, 2010, 8:56 am Posts: 1683 Location: Minnesota
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Thanks for adding your pool specs. I am have mixed feelings on which way you should go.
Why are you thinking of closing so early?
_________________ Going to Pool School and learning the BBB method of pool care with a TF100 test kit that helps me use the Pool Calculator to properly maintain the water in my: Round AGP 11K gal (free on CL) with a deep end, Meteor 20" sand filter, Matrix 1hp 2spd, 4 2ftX20ft Sungrabber panels, Intex SWCG (copper bars removed), and Borates. Also a Rubadub hot tub and a UDS (Ugly Drum Smoker) poolside. If your water has you worried, do an Overnight Chlorine Loss Test (OCLT), and if you fail, then follow the Shocking Process until: 1. CC is less than 0.5 ppm, 2. An OCLT shows a loss of 1.0 ppm or less and, 3. The water is crystal clear.
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thirstymate
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Post subject: Re: Boost CYA before closing?  Posted: August 25th, 2011, 5:13 pm |
Joined: July 5th, 2011, 11:53 am Posts: 4
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I live in a pretty heavily wooded neighborhood and the acorns and some leaves are already beginning to drop. While we still do have 85 degree pool water, it is beginning to drop in temp due to the dropping angle of the sun as we head into fall and surrounding trees. Temps are supposed to be in the 50's at night over the next week which means much cooler pool temps in the very near future. But, mostly, it is because it really starts to become a pain to maintain this time of year due to all of the tree debris.
I might add the pool is crystal clear and all other levels look great.
_________________ 24' Round 48" High AG, Hayward PowerFlo LX pump 1.5HP, Hayward C1250 Cartridge Filter, Hayward Aqua Trol-HP SWG Located in Central Illinois
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crek31
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Post subject: Re: Boost CYA before closing?  Posted: August 25th, 2011, 7:05 pm |
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Joined: June 28th, 2009, 7:02 am Posts: 404
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Complete novice here, but I'd guess that with or without CYA you will have a green pool when you open, since you are closing when the temps are still high. Thus, my guess is you are safe to close now without the cya, and add the cya when you open -- and add it slowly so you can shock before you add more than 30 or so. We'll see what the experts suggest, however.
_________________ POOL: Intex ultra (20' x 48") (will be on concrete pad covered with yellow foam boards and tarp) EQUIPMENT: Awaiting delivery of: Pentair SuperFlo pump (1HP, 2SPD; 230v); Pentair Clean and Clear cartridge filter (200 sq. ft); Pentair MasterTemp natural gas heater (400,000 btu; cupro-nickel; electronic ignition) TEST KIT: TF-100 Climate/Location: Lincoln, Nebraska
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duraleigh
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Post subject: Re: Boost CYA before closing?  Posted: August 25th, 2011, 7:31 pm |
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Joined: April 1st, 2007, 8:12 am Posts: 11280 Location: Raleigh, NC
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Hi, Sean,
Bring the FC up to shock value, cover the pool shortly after and skip the CYA 'til next year. CYA is protection from the sun and your pool will be covered so it is not needed during the winter.
PS - Some people report success by using an algaecide when closing at warmer water temps. I don't close but it might be something you wish to consider. Of course, a little extra chlorine in the Spring will fix everything and might be less money than the polyquat algaecide.
_________________ Dave S. Site Owner TFTestkits owner TFTestkits , Pool Calculator , Pool School
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thirstymate
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Post subject: Re: Boost CYA before closing?  Posted: August 25th, 2011, 7:50 pm |
Joined: July 5th, 2011, 11:53 am Posts: 4
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Thanks everyone for the quick replies.
I had actually gone out and purchased the CYA and then got to thinking it might not be necessary since it is basically to hold FC levels during use. So, I figured I'd come here and ask the experts! It is very reassuring knowing there is such a wealth of knowledge here at TFP you can count on, especially with only using Baquacil for the last 13 years!
_________________ 24' Round 48" High AG, Hayward PowerFlo LX pump 1.5HP, Hayward C1250 Cartridge Filter, Hayward Aqua Trol-HP SWG Located in Central Illinois
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Whatrymes
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Post subject: Re: Boost CYA before closing?  Posted: August 26th, 2011, 8:05 pm |
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Joined: May 30th, 2011, 7:13 am Posts: 71 Location: E. Bridgewater, MA
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thirstymate wrote: Greetings all,
First a big thank you to all of the contributors on this board! I recently converted from Baquacil to a SWG after 13 years, the last 3 of which were a nightmare! Thanks to all of the information and expertise on this board, I was able to painlessly convert successfully!
I have an above ground 24' round pool. I have to plead guilty to not getting my CYA levels to where they need to be after the conversion. Currently, my CYA is close to 0 and from what I've read on here, it should be closer to 80 for a SWG. My question is do I go ahead and add the 8lbs or so of CYA to get it in range before I close it (which I plan to do this weekend), or do I simply bring my pool to Shock level for 25 hrs, clean the pool, then drain and put my winter cover on?
Thanks in advance for help.
Sean The cya is really all about keeping our CL from being destroyed by the sun too quickly. Once the cover is on this is no longer a concern. Depending on the weather, you might have to boost your shock level during the day to keep it up where it belongs. We usually close every Labor Day here in Boston and as long as the cover stays on, our opening is pretty easy. Forgot to add; wealways close the pool with 20 oz of polyquat 60.
_________________ 15 X 30 X 3.6 Ester williams AGP 10,800 gallons Haywood EC40C90 DE filter 1 HP pump
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