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mynewpool
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Post subject: Re: Benefits to the Speedstir for the Tf-100  Posted: July 1st, 2011, 9:26 am |
Joined: March 17th, 2010, 8:58 pm Posts: 924 Location: Spring, TX
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waste wrote: When I'm doing the ch or alk test, I'll turn the SpeedStir off and back on when I'm getting close to the endpoint so I don't miss it. I do this same thing.
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mynewpool
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Post subject: Re: Benefits to the Speedstir for the Tf-100  Posted: July 1st, 2011, 9:28 am |
Joined: March 17th, 2010, 8:58 pm Posts: 924 Location: Spring, TX
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rcy wrote: Mine arrived in the mail yesterday (along with a new Borate drop based test - check in Chem 201 if you need a Borate test kit).
At first it didn't work - I tested the batteries and they were all 1.6 volts - more than enough. After removing and re-inserting the batteries several times, it suddenly started working. I hope there's not a loose connection or something.
One thing that I DON'T like, is that it auto stops after one minute. My calcium test takes much longer than that, by the time I add the 20 drops at the start, it's been over a minute...
Other than that, it made testing way easier. Well be glad it does stop. Imagine that you used it one time and put it away. Somehow it go turned on and did not go back off. Then you would have to replace the batteries again. So it may be a little annoying, but helps conserve on battery life.
_________________ 22,000 Plaster IG Pool Hayward C5030 Cart Filter Emerson 1081 EB653 1.0 HP 1.40 S.F. 3450 RPM Pool Calculator, Pool School, TF Test Kits
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rcy
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Post subject: Re: Benefits to the Speedstir for the Tf-100  Posted: July 1st, 2011, 10:25 am |
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Joined: April 25th, 2009, 4:42 pm Posts: 286 Location: Burlington, ON, Canada
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I'd rather take my chances with that happening (slim to nil) than have the machine shut off in the middle of my dropping and counting.
_________________ 16x28 Roman, 55000 litres, salt water, Zodiac Duoclear 130 (mineral cartridge removed!!!), inground, vinyl liner Hayward Tri-star 1HP (1.85) pump, Hayward sand filter Nine Fafco Sunsaver 4x10 solar panels, Jandy LX 250 natural gas heater Jandy Aqualink PDA with Sub Panel Power Centre
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Pisces
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Post subject: Re: Benefits to the Speedstir for the Tf-100  Posted: July 1st, 2011, 11:30 pm |
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Joined: June 30th, 2008, 12:52 pm Posts: 269 Location: League City, Texas
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LOVE this thing!! Got it from Dave at TFTest kits. It rocks!!  I can't test without the thing now. Just thinking about doing that darn CH test by hand...ugh. No way I'm going back. Great little investment!
_________________ 7,000 gal. IG gunite, SWG, PebbleSheen interior finish-Aqua Blue, 8' vanishing edge raised 16-jet overspill spa, 2 12" waterfalls, tan shelf with bubbler. Pentair equipment: Easy Touch 8, Intellichlor IC-40, Intelliflo VF 3050, 2.5 hp Whisperflo spa pump, 1 hp Whisperflo water feature pump, Quad 100 DE filter, Master Temp 400 heater, Legend Platinum Cleaner (3/4 hp pump). Autofill, TF-100 Test Kit w/salt and borate strips.
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Richard320
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Post subject: Re: Benefits to the Speedstir for the Tf-100  Posted: December 2nd, 2011, 11:43 pm |
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Joined: January 6th, 2010, 10:54 am Posts: 2427 Location: San Dimas, CA (LA County)
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Okay, now that my order has been placed, I'll go ahead and confess that I am giving a Speedstir to brother-in-law as part of his Christmas present. His wife says he has "some sort of spinning thing", but I casually mentioned the speedstir to him once and he didn't know what I meant. Knowing him, that "spinning thing" is an industrial centrifuge...
Anyway, he's drained his pool twice in the same time span that I've owned mine, so he needs some sort of help.
_________________ 16K freeform gunite with spa; Pentair 4000 DE filter; Century Whisperflow 1 HP; Pentair Minimax heater.
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stevodevo
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Post subject: Re: Benefits to the Speedstir for the Tf-100  Posted: February 8th, 2012, 7:36 am |
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Joined: December 22nd, 2011, 6:38 pm Posts: 49 Location: Gold Coast, Australia
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waste wrote: When I'm doing the ch or alk test, I'll turn the SpeedStir off and back on when I'm getting close to the endpoint so I don't miss it. I do the same. It's amazing how it seems to know just when the endpoint is coming! I love my SpeedStir. Just be careful about using it in front of friends and family or risk never living down the "science geek" label.
_________________ 37000 litre, concrete, pebble, Viron P300 pump, Hurlcon VX7T SWCG, Viron CL-400 Cartridge filter, Solar heating, Pandora Smart Robotic cleaner
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codybear
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Post subject: Re: Benefits to the Speedstir for the Tf-100  Posted: March 6th, 2012, 1:29 pm |
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Joined: January 15th, 2011, 7:24 pm Posts: 12 Location: North Suburb, Chicago, IL
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I just recently bought a speedstir when I was replacing my old taylor kit. Now, I only wish I had known about it sooner. I really like the light and the way it seems to make the colors fluorescent. But ...
When I'm testing for FC and CC, I get to a point that the pink is gone, but because of the light, I can see the sample is just not quite clear/white. One more drop and it becomes very clear/white. So if I was doing this without the light, I would have stopped one drop sooner. But with the light magnifying the color, I end up with one additional drop. So, which reading would be considered correct? Obviously, if I was doing this by hand, I would have not added the last drop.
_________________ 2,600 gal. Swimex AG fiberglass swim spa, Pentair 3/4 hp 2 speed pump, Pentair 75 sq. ft. cartridge filter, Triangle Tube titanium heat exchanger, Purezone CD ozone generator w/ Azco air dryer (0.7 g/hr), two 2.5' contact chambers.
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linen
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Post subject: Re: Benefits to the Speedstir for the Tf-100  Posted: March 6th, 2012, 2:20 pm |
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Joined: July 30th, 2010, 8:56 am Posts: 1679 Location: Minnesota
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codybear wrote: I just recently bought a speedstir when I was replacing my old taylor kit. Now, I only wish I had known about it sooner. I really like the light and the way it seems to make the colors fluorescent. But ...
When I'm testing for FC and CC, I get to a point that the pink is gone, but because of the light, I can see the sample is just not quite clear/white. One more drop and it becomes very clear/white. So if I was doing this without the light, I would have stopped one drop sooner. But with the light magnifying the color, I end up with one additional drop. So, which reading would be considered correct? Obviously, if I was doing this by hand, I would have not added the last drop. My understanding is you add drops until the last one does nothing, then subtract that drop from you total. So using that rule, you would count the drop where it became very clear/white and you would put one more in to make sure it does not change (assuming that drop causes not change) with that drop being not counted. I do believe the speedstirs light improves the ability to see changes.
_________________ Going to Pool School and learning the BBB method of pool care with a TF100 test kit that helps me use the Pool Calculator to properly maintain the water in my: Round AGP 11K gal (free on CL) with a deep end, Meteor 20" sand filter, Matrix 1hp 2spd, 4 2ftX20ft Sungrabber panels, Intex SWCG (copper bars removed), and Borates. Also a Rubadub hot tub and a UDS (Ugly Drum Smoker) poolside. If your water has you worried, do an Overnight Chlorine Loss Test (OCLT), and if you fail, then follow the Shocking Process until: 1. CC is less than 0.5 ppm, 2. An OCLT shows a loss of 1.0 ppm or less and, 3. The water is crystal clear.
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linen
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Post subject: Re: Benefits to the Speedstir for the Tf-100  Posted: March 6th, 2012, 10:06 pm |
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Joined: July 30th, 2010, 8:56 am Posts: 1679 Location: Minnesota
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duraleigh wrote: Linen's response cannot be improved upon!  Only because I heard it from an expert! I wonder who that could be...Dave 
_________________ Going to Pool School and learning the BBB method of pool care with a TF100 test kit that helps me use the Pool Calculator to properly maintain the water in my: Round AGP 11K gal (free on CL) with a deep end, Meteor 20" sand filter, Matrix 1hp 2spd, 4 2ftX20ft Sungrabber panels, Intex SWCG (copper bars removed), and Borates. Also a Rubadub hot tub and a UDS (Ugly Drum Smoker) poolside. If your water has you worried, do an Overnight Chlorine Loss Test (OCLT), and if you fail, then follow the Shocking Process until: 1. CC is less than 0.5 ppm, 2. An OCLT shows a loss of 1.0 ppm or less and, 3. The water is crystal clear.
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codybear
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Post subject: Re: Benefits to the Speedstir for the Tf-100  Posted: March 8th, 2012, 11:12 am |
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Joined: January 15th, 2011, 7:24 pm Posts: 12 Location: North Suburb, Chicago, IL
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I wanted to try the FC/CC test again before I better try to explain my question. In both tests I'm using the speedstir, one with the light and one without the light.
1. Without light: 2 drops needed to remove pink, third drop does nothing 2. With light: 2 drops needed to remove pink, third drop changes from clear/white to bright clear/white, fourth drop does nothing.
So in case one, I would have said 2 drops were required and in case two, I would have said 3 drops were required. So really the question is, did Taylor design these tests for the typical user that is not using a lighted speedstir or are these tests designed for the lighted speedstir, which can detect minute changes?
_________________ 2,600 gal. Swimex AG fiberglass swim spa, Pentair 3/4 hp 2 speed pump, Pentair 75 sq. ft. cartridge filter, Triangle Tube titanium heat exchanger, Purezone CD ozone generator w/ Azco air dryer (0.7 g/hr), two 2.5' contact chambers.
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waste
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Post subject: Re: Benefits to the Speedstir for the Tf-100  Posted: March 12th, 2012, 7:07 pm |
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Joined: March 29th, 2007, 11:56 am Posts: 4159 Location: Coastalish 'down easter'
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Welcome to TFP!! The tests were made before the advent of the Speed-Stir I trust the unlighted tests more than the lighted ones. However, please keep in mind that you found a difference of +/- 1 drop - which is the accuracy of the test anyway 
_________________ Luv& Luk -Ted
Having done construction and service for 4 pool companies in 4 states starting in 1988, what I know about pools could fill a couple of books - what I don't know could fill a couple of libraries 
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codybear
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Post subject: Re: Benefits to the Speedstir for the Tf-100  Posted: March 14th, 2012, 5:05 am |
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Joined: January 15th, 2011, 7:24 pm Posts: 12 Location: North Suburb, Chicago, IL
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Thanks for the clarification. I had just bought the DPD test and speedstir so I can have a more accurate reading of FC and CC to see how the addition of the ozone generator is effecting my indoor pool. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't over reading the results by one drop every time.
_________________ 2,600 gal. Swimex AG fiberglass swim spa, Pentair 3/4 hp 2 speed pump, Pentair 75 sq. ft. cartridge filter, Triangle Tube titanium heat exchanger, Purezone CD ozone generator w/ Azco air dryer (0.7 g/hr), two 2.5' contact chambers.
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arvil
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Post subject: Re: Benefits to the Speedstir for the Tf-100  Posted: March 18th, 2012, 9:33 pm |
Joined: March 7th, 2010, 7:01 pm Posts: 44 Location: Quakertown, PA
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Got the TF100 2010, the speedstir 2011, never go back. Do all the tests with it except the pH and the borate strip. I believe the mixing is much more thorough than manual. The wife says I'm the mad scientist with it. Like codybear, I notice a difference with that extra drop.
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Brushpup
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Post subject: Re: Benefits to the Speedstir for the Tf-100  Posted: March 27th, 2012, 7:12 am |
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Joined: June 7th, 2011, 11:16 am Posts: 394 Location: West TX
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codybear wrote: I wanted to try the FC/CC test again before I better try to explain my question. In both tests I'm using the speedstir, one with the light and one without the light.
1. Without light: 2 drops needed to remove pink, third drop does nothing 2. With light: 2 drops needed to remove pink, third drop changes from clear/white to bright clear/white, fourth drop does nothing.
So in case one, I would have said 2 drops were required and in case two, I would have said 3 drops were required. So really the question is, did Taylor design these tests for the typical user that is not using a lighted speedstir or are these tests designed for the lighted speedstir, which can detect minute changes? To answer your last questions, these types of tests were designed long, long ago. The light was designed into the stirrer as an added feature.
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Kias
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Post subject: Re: Benefits to the Speedstir for the Tf-100  Posted: March 27th, 2012, 6:28 pm |
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Joined: July 31st, 2009, 5:15 pm Posts: 350 Location: NW Ohio
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I honestly don't think "wow you're a dork" would be good enough for me, so when I win the lottery and have an extra $700 plus whatever the software costs just burning a hole in my pocket, I'm going to get the wiselab. For no other reason then to be the ultimate dork! Speed stir included.  Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
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Samantha Sabrina
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Post subject: Re: Benefits to the Speedstir for the Tf-100  Posted: April 18th, 2012, 4:44 am |
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Joined: April 11th, 2012, 3:52 am Posts: 43 Location: Bloomsdale, Mo. 63627
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Hey everyone,
I have thought about getting one of these when I order my kit, but I am wondering if my ultra sonic tub would do pretty much the same thing?
I am thinking I can set the test vial down in that thing and add the chemicals, and let that do the mixing?
Any input on this one?
Thanks
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Samantha
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BigJD
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Post subject: Benefits to the Speedstir for the Tf-100  Posted: April 18th, 2012, 5:43 am |
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Bought a speedstir this year and after my first round of tests I am a believer!
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arvil
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Post subject: Re: Benefits to the Speedstir for the Tf-100  Posted: May 5th, 2012, 7:11 am |
Joined: March 7th, 2010, 7:01 pm Posts: 44 Location: Quakertown, PA
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Wow, that (Wiselab) is the ultimate awesome!! This just might qualify us for the cast of the Big Bang Theory.
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thadius65
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Post subject: Re: Benefits to the Speedstir for the Tf-100  Posted: May 10th, 2012, 7:51 pm |
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Received my SpeedStir from TFTESTKITS.NET tonight and WOW! I feel like Beaker out on the back porch with my little science lab. Was much easier than without. Thumbs up to product and also for quick turnaround on my order! Thanks!!
Ted
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