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armyb77
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Post subject: Re: Baltimore Pool House Build  Posted: April 8th, 2012, 8:30 am |
Joined: January 15th, 2012, 11:04 am Posts: 8
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Nice work! That looks great, it is exactly what my wife and I are thinking of doing. Just wondering though how you are dealing with the Drain/Vent/Sewage line? What are you tying into? Also did are you using a "point of use" hot water tank or did you bring both lines all the way in from the house? This looks like a great project that is going to add some real value to your home!
Cheers! Armyb77
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BobinBaltimore
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Post subject: Re: Baltimore Pool House Build  Posted: April 8th, 2012, 9:16 am |
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Armyb77, you caught me on the DVW! We're on septic, and my three tank system and field is significantly uphill from our pool area. Initial conversations surrounding tapping into that were into the high five figures, with all sorts of disruption around the pool area, a re-evaluation process by the county to assess our septic capacity, and at least one additional septic pump. I was not up for that and scrapped the notion of a bathroom for that reason. For the kitchenette, I will run the drain into a drywell behind the pool house (frankly, since it will be light use, a bucket would do, but takes too much space and has a tendency to overflow, of course). For water, we ran cold water only from the house for the pool area. It is 1/2 inch Sched 40 pipe buried per code. Inside the equipment area, I convert that to 1/2 inch CPVC before it enters the pool house. I ran a loop to the back exterior of the pool house which will allow me to install a small tankless propane heater on the exterior, and feed hot water to the sink (and to a potential future outdoor shower). I'm looking at something like the following (though maybe not this particular brand or model): http://www.energystead.com/eccotemp-l10-tankless-water-heater-lp/
_________________ Completed in 2010 - Inground gunite freeform pool, 25' x 37', 24,000 gallons, 1200 sq ft deck, Pentair VS3050, Pentair C&C Plus 420 Pentair EasyTouch 8 Controller, IntelliChlor IC40 SWG, IntelliBrite Color Changing LEDs, Pentair/Letro Legend Cleaner, Bluestone coping, Jandy DeckJets Pool House is in progress! >> Click for pictures of our Pool Project - Design, Build, Finishing, and our Pool House
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armyb77
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Post subject: Re: Baltimore Pool House Build  Posted: April 8th, 2012, 1:33 pm |
Joined: January 15th, 2012, 11:04 am Posts: 8
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One of our biggest fears is that a project like this would be cost prohibitive to undergo. We honestly won't know until we get estimates on the sewer line, but we are also still 12 days from closing so in some ways I'm getting ahead of myself...laughs
If we are not able to at least get a half bath in though it just wouldn't be worth putting it in for us. We want to have a nice place for our guests and the kids to change, go to the bathroom, and dry cloths without tracking it all through the house. Our bathrooms in the home are not in the best location at least when you consider wet kids going to the bathroom from the pool.
Still overall I think you have a great project going and hopefully we can do something similar too. If I can keep the costs below $15K for the whole thing, it would be worth it. Of course that would be me doing all the work except for the rough plumb of the sewer line and I would also probably sub out the slab.
Make sure to take pics when it is completed!
Cheers!
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BobinBaltimore
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Post subject: Re: Baltimore Pool House Build  Posted: April 8th, 2012, 6:40 pm |
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Joined: December 13th, 2009, 6:30 pm Posts: 113 Location: Northeast of Baltimore, MD
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I apologize...I meant high FOUR figures....$8K was discussed to hook the pool house up to septic, and with lots of caveats. If it helps, here is my list of costs so far:
Materials for footings and decking (2x8 pressure treated Joists, plywood, galvanized hangers and hardware, concrete for footings, etc): $700 Pool house shell (the only part I didn't do myself, 2x4 16 in oc studs, 2x6 rafters, shed dormer, house wrap, 15lb felt and architectural shingles, built on site): $3,800 Modifications/additions to shell (frame in the equipment area, frame out the storage room and changing room): $400 Electrical (wire, GFCI breakers, conduit, 8 outlets, 6 switches, 6 fixture boxes, NOT including fixtures themselves): $450 Plumbing (CPVC and appropriate fittings): $120 Drywall (18 4x8 sheets of greenboard, screws, mud, tape, corner bead): $225 Paint (2 gals primer, 2 gals top coat, 1 gal pickling mix...I own a sprayer so no cost there): $150 Ceiling (250 sq feet of 3/4 x 5-1/4 white pine): $240 Entry Door (pre-hung 36" fiberglass entry door): $175
With moldings, light fixtures, interior door, cabinets, counters and other items, I have probably another $1500 to go. But, aside from the shell of the main structure, I have no labor costs, so that's very helpful.
_________________ Completed in 2010 - Inground gunite freeform pool, 25' x 37', 24,000 gallons, 1200 sq ft deck, Pentair VS3050, Pentair C&C Plus 420 Pentair EasyTouch 8 Controller, IntelliChlor IC40 SWG, IntelliBrite Color Changing LEDs, Pentair/Letro Legend Cleaner, Bluestone coping, Jandy DeckJets Pool House is in progress! >> Click for pictures of our Pool Project - Design, Build, Finishing, and our Pool House
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Azmp1
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Post subject: Re: Baltimore Pool House Build  Posted: August 12th, 2012, 11:05 am |
Joined: July 20th, 2012, 7:50 pm Posts: 26
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This is great Bob! (I also followed your pool build thread on the gardenweb). I'm looking to do the pool and the poolhouse in this spring, one question for you, did you have to get the permits to put up the poolhouse and for all the work you did on the interior?
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BobinBaltimore
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Post subject: Re: Baltimore Pool House Build  Posted: August 12th, 2012, 6:46 pm |
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Joined: December 13th, 2009, 6:30 pm Posts: 113 Location: Northeast of Baltimore, MD
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Azmp1, Yes, permits are definitely required. In Harford County, for structures less than 200 sq feet, it's purely a formality...they don;t inspect the structure. I did a shed permit, but specifically noted its use as a pool house. Electrical and Plumbing are required as with any structure.
_________________ Completed in 2010 - Inground gunite freeform pool, 25' x 37', 24,000 gallons, 1200 sq ft deck, Pentair VS3050, Pentair C&C Plus 420 Pentair EasyTouch 8 Controller, IntelliChlor IC40 SWG, IntelliBrite Color Changing LEDs, Pentair/Letro Legend Cleaner, Bluestone coping, Jandy DeckJets Pool House is in progress! >> Click for pictures of our Pool Project - Design, Build, Finishing, and our Pool House
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BobinBaltimore
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Post subject: Re: Baltimore Pool House Build  Posted: August 12th, 2012, 7:02 pm |
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Joined: December 13th, 2009, 6:30 pm Posts: 113 Location: Northeast of Baltimore, MD
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Haven't updated for a while, so I wanted to provide a few pictures of the tile I installed a few weeks ago. Main area, 12x12 ceramic tile:  Showing the pebble floor in the changing room:  Detail of the changing room: 
_________________ Completed in 2010 - Inground gunite freeform pool, 25' x 37', 24,000 gallons, 1200 sq ft deck, Pentair VS3050, Pentair C&C Plus 420 Pentair EasyTouch 8 Controller, IntelliChlor IC40 SWG, IntelliBrite Color Changing LEDs, Pentair/Letro Legend Cleaner, Bluestone coping, Jandy DeckJets Pool House is in progress! >> Click for pictures of our Pool Project - Design, Build, Finishing, and our Pool House
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Azmp1
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Post subject: Re: Baltimore Pool House Build  Posted: August 12th, 2012, 8:15 pm |
Joined: July 20th, 2012, 7:50 pm Posts: 26
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Thanks for the feedback Bob. Keep those updates coming!
Elite pools are coming in tomorrow, we'll see how it goes, so far I have not been impressed with a any of the gunite PB's, hopefully I will like them as you did. I may still go vinyl however, we'll see.
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BobinBaltimore
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Post subject: Re: Baltimore Pool House Build  Posted: August 19th, 2012, 6:54 pm |
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Shots of the completed tile. We debated for a while, but ultimately chose a high-contrast grout. It is Polyblend's Snow White, if anyone is interested. View through the front door:  View from Front Door:  View on the inside toward front door:  Changing room pebble floor (I've removed more of the grout since to expose more of the pebbles): 
_________________ Completed in 2010 - Inground gunite freeform pool, 25' x 37', 24,000 gallons, 1200 sq ft deck, Pentair VS3050, Pentair C&C Plus 420 Pentair EasyTouch 8 Controller, IntelliChlor IC40 SWG, IntelliBrite Color Changing LEDs, Pentair/Letro Legend Cleaner, Bluestone coping, Jandy DeckJets Pool House is in progress! >> Click for pictures of our Pool Project - Design, Build, Finishing, and our Pool House
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Azmp1
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Post subject: Re: Baltimore Pool House Build  Posted: August 19th, 2012, 7:59 pm |
Joined: July 20th, 2012, 7:50 pm Posts: 26
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Looks great! High contrast was the to go.
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radefeld
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Post subject: Re: Baltimore Pool House Build  Posted: August 19th, 2012, 8:11 pm |
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Joined: April 6th, 2012, 10:47 am Posts: 98 Location: Bonner Springs, Kansas
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BobinBaltimore wrote: Oh Ya - that looks like a Sam's Club Clorox bleach box! Seriously though, phenomenal work. My wife and I have been planning and this is very close to what we've been dreaming about, Great Job!
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Yukon Jack
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Post subject: Re: Baltimore Pool House Build  Posted: August 20th, 2012, 10:44 am |
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Joined: May 6th, 2011, 8:18 am Posts: 79
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Really nice work - someday would like to add something like this to my pool area.
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BobinBaltimore
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Post subject: Re: Baltimore Pool House Build  Posted: September 16th, 2012, 7:06 pm |
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Marking more progress...a few hours here, a few hours there. Got trim installed on the interior. Clear pine with the same pickling stain I used on the ceiling.  Kitchenette is installed, working on the details.  Detail of bar sink and counter.  And finally got the exterior trim painted on the front. 
_________________ Completed in 2010 - Inground gunite freeform pool, 25' x 37', 24,000 gallons, 1200 sq ft deck, Pentair VS3050, Pentair C&C Plus 420 Pentair EasyTouch 8 Controller, IntelliChlor IC40 SWG, IntelliBrite Color Changing LEDs, Pentair/Letro Legend Cleaner, Bluestone coping, Jandy DeckJets Pool House is in progress! >> Click for pictures of our Pool Project - Design, Build, Finishing, and our Pool House
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BobinBaltimore
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Post subject: Re: Baltimore Pool House Build  Posted: September 23rd, 2012, 7:53 pm |
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Got all the interior trim done today. I'll build the sliding door to the changing room in the spring. It will hang from a barn door-style apparatus I got earlier this year. So, aside from a thorough cleaning, gutters, a few touch-ups and minor items, we're done. Kitchenette Window, with 8 inch deep sill for serving convenience.  Changing Room window:  Back Window:  Looking toward front door and changing room:  Side wall with cool effect from the indirect lighting: 
_________________ Completed in 2010 - Inground gunite freeform pool, 25' x 37', 24,000 gallons, 1200 sq ft deck, Pentair VS3050, Pentair C&C Plus 420 Pentair EasyTouch 8 Controller, IntelliChlor IC40 SWG, IntelliBrite Color Changing LEDs, Pentair/Letro Legend Cleaner, Bluestone coping, Jandy DeckJets Pool House is in progress! >> Click for pictures of our Pool Project - Design, Build, Finishing, and our Pool House
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Plankton
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Post subject: Re: Baltimore Pool House Build  Posted: September 24th, 2012, 12:19 am |
Joined: April 13th, 2008, 12:41 pm Posts: 65
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Very Nice!! The whole building that is, craftsmanship, quality, everything!!!
_________________ 17.5K IG Pool with Spa spillover and fountain, Plaster Finish, Purex Triton CC420 Cartridge Filter, Pentair Intelliflo XF VS motor, Laars LX GasHeater, Polaris 360
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