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Steve737
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Post subject: Autofill or not???  Posted: October 24th, 2011, 10:43 pm |
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Joined: September 25th, 2011, 5:40 pm Posts: 72 Location: Montgomery Texas
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Any thoughts. I travel for a living so i'm gone a lot and would love to no my pump is getting the water it needs. Pb says he wouldn't because of the failure rate. Is there so something better on the market these days? Thanks Steve
_________________ 24X38'ish 23,500 gallon Geometric with 10x10 spa(12jets), Pentair IC40 SWG, Pentair intelliflow(pool-spa), pentair whispersflow 2HP(booster spa jets), Two Polaris 1.5 Hp blowers, Pentair Wisperflow XF 3HP(2 6 foot water falls), Pentair clean&clear plus 520, Pentair Master temp 400. Intelli PH acid dispenser, Intellitouch with iPhone and iPad control. Two 45000 BTU fire bowls and one 60000 BTU fire pit.
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Dan-H
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Post subject: Re: Autofill or not???  Posted: October 24th, 2011, 11:38 pm |
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Joined: May 28th, 2011, 8:06 pm Posts: 36 Location: No. CA
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I have this one. http://www.mp-industries.com/products.html#autolevThe lever broke after 12 years. I found the replacement part online, and on eBay for a reasonable cost. I like not having to fill the pool.
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duraleigh
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Post subject: Re: Autofill or not???  Posted: October 25th, 2011, 9:28 am |
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Joined: April 1st, 2007, 8:12 am Posts: 11278 Location: Raleigh, NC
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Quote: Pb says he wouldn't because of the failure rate. I think that has some merit. automation is great but, when unattended, a failed autofill can cause some big problems.
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carlscan26
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Post subject: Re: Autofill or not???  Posted: October 25th, 2011, 9:55 am |
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Joined: December 22nd, 2010, 12:09 am Posts: 1068 Location: San Diego, CA
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Do you have an overflow drain and does it drain somewhere you can see it?
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fyton2v
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Post subject: Re: Autofill or not???  Posted: October 25th, 2011, 4:50 pm |
Joined: June 3rd, 2007, 9:08 pm Posts: 129
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as long as you have an overflow i'd use one. there isn't a lot that can break and for safe measure I'd regulate the amount of water that can flow to the auto-fill. Filling the pool is a nuisance and you'd likely lose as much water every year doing that manually as you would if the auto-fill malfunctioned.
The one on my pool isn't exactly quiet. If it ran free from some amount of time i'd hear it.
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Steve737
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Post subject: Re: Autofill or not???  Posted: October 25th, 2011, 8:16 pm |
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Joined: September 25th, 2011, 5:40 pm Posts: 72 Location: Montgomery Texas
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Looks like everyone is still divided on this one I guess I'll give this a little more thought.
_________________ 24X38'ish 23,500 gallon Geometric with 10x10 spa(12jets), Pentair IC40 SWG, Pentair intelliflow(pool-spa), pentair whispersflow 2HP(booster spa jets), Two Polaris 1.5 Hp blowers, Pentair Wisperflow XF 3HP(2 6 foot water falls), Pentair clean&clear plus 520, Pentair Master temp 400. Intelli PH acid dispenser, Intellitouch with iPhone and iPad control. Two 45000 BTU fire bowls and one 60000 BTU fire pit.
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rv4hess
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Post subject: Re: Autofill or not???  Posted: October 25th, 2011, 8:37 pm |
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Joined: March 14th, 2011, 1:08 pm Posts: 151
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A big YES vote here. The Pentair autofill I installed is as reliable as your toilet tank valve, (same valve without that flapper to leak or go bad). I put a shutoff on mine and open it for a couple of hours each week. Some people add a timer as a safety measure. Like mentioned before, I also put the overflow drain where we could see if it ever started draining due to a faulty autofill valve. My neighbor was filling with a hose, forgot about it and left it on for days, so nothing is foolproof. I think you will be glad you did it as it would be much more difficult and expensive to add later.
Best of Luck John
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chiefwej
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Post subject: Re: Autofill or not???  Posted: October 26th, 2011, 12:50 am |
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Joined: June 11th, 2011, 11:27 pm Posts: 175
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Here in AZ every pool has an auto fill. There seem to be two types. Mine has a brass valve and an arm with a brass float that is similar to a toilet fill but the water comes in from the side not the bottom. The other one uses a plastic Fluidmaster Water Saver fill valve right out of a toilet tank. The nice thing about that one is that you can replace the whole guts of it for about $10 from any hardware store, HD or Lowes
_________________ chiefwej Tucson, AZ 19k gallon Pebble Tec pool/spa, 2 hp Super II pump (x2), Aqua Rite T-15 SWG, Pro Grid DE filter, Hayward H400 & Solar heating
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Flippy
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Post subject: Re: Autofill or not???  Posted: October 26th, 2011, 4:18 pm |
Joined: January 8th, 2011, 10:26 am Posts: 136 Location: Richmond, Texas
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I have an auto fill and it is a must have. One less thing to worry about on a weekly basis.
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Steve737
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Post subject: Re: Autofill or not???  Posted: October 26th, 2011, 4:35 pm |
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Joined: September 25th, 2011, 5:40 pm Posts: 72 Location: Montgomery Texas
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Thanks for the info everyone. I must say I'm leaning toward putting one in. I just need to convince the builder. Wait I'm the boss aren't I. 
_________________ 24X38'ish 23,500 gallon Geometric with 10x10 spa(12jets), Pentair IC40 SWG, Pentair intelliflow(pool-spa), pentair whispersflow 2HP(booster spa jets), Two Polaris 1.5 Hp blowers, Pentair Wisperflow XF 3HP(2 6 foot water falls), Pentair clean&clear plus 520, Pentair Master temp 400. Intelli PH acid dispenser, Intellitouch with iPhone and iPad control. Two 45000 BTU fire bowls and one 60000 BTU fire pit.
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Steve737
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Post subject: Re: Autofill or not???  Posted: October 26th, 2011, 4:44 pm |
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Joined: September 25th, 2011, 5:40 pm Posts: 72 Location: Montgomery Texas
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Rv4hess how does the timer work? If I understand you right your using your as a manual fill that you don't have to worry about shutting it off at the exact time.
_________________ 24X38'ish 23,500 gallon Geometric with 10x10 spa(12jets), Pentair IC40 SWG, Pentair intelliflow(pool-spa), pentair whispersflow 2HP(booster spa jets), Two Polaris 1.5 Hp blowers, Pentair Wisperflow XF 3HP(2 6 foot water falls), Pentair clean&clear plus 520, Pentair Master temp 400. Intelli PH acid dispenser, Intellitouch with iPhone and iPad control. Two 45000 BTU fire bowls and one 60000 BTU fire pit.
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Lershac
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Post subject: Re: Autofill or not???  Posted: October 26th, 2011, 5:17 pm |
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Joined: May 1st, 2007, 9:07 pm Posts: 1153 Location: Baton Rouge, LA
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Put it this way It's a 150 dollar option on a pool that costs tens of thousands, and it can always be turned off. Adding one afterwards is a grand at least!
_________________ TFP Moderator Under Construction (DIY):16K Gal 20X30 rectangular IG Gunite, CCP 520 filter,2 Pentair VS pumps, 400KBTU Pentair gas heater, Heat Pump for cooling My Build Thread Here (Still In Progress) Useful Links: Pool School - Pool Calc - TF Test Kits
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Steve737
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Post subject: Re: Autofill or not???  Posted: October 26th, 2011, 5:51 pm |
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Good point.
_________________ 24X38'ish 23,500 gallon Geometric with 10x10 spa(12jets), Pentair IC40 SWG, Pentair intelliflow(pool-spa), pentair whispersflow 2HP(booster spa jets), Two Polaris 1.5 Hp blowers, Pentair Wisperflow XF 3HP(2 6 foot water falls), Pentair clean&clear plus 520, Pentair Master temp 400. Intelli PH acid dispenser, Intellitouch with iPhone and iPad control. Two 45000 BTU fire bowls and one 60000 BTU fire pit.
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chiefwej
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Post subject: Re: Autofill or not???  Posted: October 26th, 2011, 5:58 pm |
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An inexpensive irrigation timer can be installed between the supply and the auto filler. That can be set to limit how much time the auto filler is allowed to run each day. That way even if a filler did fail it wouldn't be running 24/7.
_________________ chiefwej Tucson, AZ 19k gallon Pebble Tec pool/spa, 2 hp Super II pump (x2), Aqua Rite T-15 SWG, Pro Grid DE filter, Hayward H400 & Solar heating
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Steve737
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Post subject: Re: Autofill or not???  Posted: October 26th, 2011, 6:15 pm |
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Joined: September 25th, 2011, 5:40 pm Posts: 72 Location: Montgomery Texas
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Thanks for the info great idea.
_________________ 24X38'ish 23,500 gallon Geometric with 10x10 spa(12jets), Pentair IC40 SWG, Pentair intelliflow(pool-spa), pentair whispersflow 2HP(booster spa jets), Two Polaris 1.5 Hp blowers, Pentair Wisperflow XF 3HP(2 6 foot water falls), Pentair clean&clear plus 520, Pentair Master temp 400. Intelli PH acid dispenser, Intellitouch with iPhone and iPad control. Two 45000 BTU fire bowls and one 60000 BTU fire pit.
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rv4hess
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Post subject: Re: Autofill or not???  Posted: October 26th, 2011, 9:21 pm |
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Hi Steve, the timer thing is like what Chiefwej said, and yes I just open my shutoff valve once a week for a few hours. By then I usually need 1-1.5 inches of water. What I saw people on TFP doing was putting the pool autofill on a zone of their existing irrigation system. Any type of irrigation timer and, of course, a manual shutoff valve should protect you from what your PB is concerned with. You should only need to add water once every 5-7 days so you could turn it off while you are not going to be around. That way you don't mask a leak either.
Best of luck, John
Last edited by rv4hess on October 27th, 2011, 8:05 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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"Experience is what you get, just after you needed it." Owner DIY build, steel/liner kit, 18x36 Deer Creek, sport depth, approx 17,500 gal, Aqua Plus SWG, 1 1/2 hp, 2 speed, 300# sand filter and twin Color logic 4.0s, MX-8 Cleaner. My DIY Pool Build
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Steve737
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Post subject: Re: Autofill or not???  Posted: October 27th, 2011, 5:26 pm |
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Joined: September 25th, 2011, 5:40 pm Posts: 72 Location: Montgomery Texas
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Thanks John they are installing it as I write this. Thanks you guys You talked me into it. Steve
_________________ 24X38'ish 23,500 gallon Geometric with 10x10 spa(12jets), Pentair IC40 SWG, Pentair intelliflow(pool-spa), pentair whispersflow 2HP(booster spa jets), Two Polaris 1.5 Hp blowers, Pentair Wisperflow XF 3HP(2 6 foot water falls), Pentair clean&clear plus 520, Pentair Master temp 400. Intelli PH acid dispenser, Intellitouch with iPhone and iPad control. Two 45000 BTU fire bowls and one 60000 BTU fire pit.
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