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macgas
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Post subject: Are pine needles affecting my pH  Posted: August 26th, 2010, 2:20 pm |
Joined: July 29th, 2010, 3:58 pm Posts: 38 Location: Houston,TX
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I am getting a tremendous amount of pine needles in the pool. I scoop alot out but still have a bunch in the skimmer. Could this increase pH? Any other problems?
Are pine needles bad for the landscaping
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PoolGuyNJ
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Post subject: Re: Are pine needles affecting my pH  Posted: August 26th, 2010, 5:55 pm |
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Joined: May 20th, 2007, 4:29 pm Posts: 3203 Location: South Central NJ
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Pine needles tend to eat alk and drive the pH down in a pool. They make the soil below them acidic. Grass doesn't do well under evergreens.
Scott
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chem geek
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Post subject: Re: Are pine needles affecting my pH  Posted: August 26th, 2010, 8:08 pm |
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Joined: March 28th, 2007, 2:40 pm Posts: 6728 Location: San Rafael, CA USA
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Most likely it's tannic acid in the pine needles that causes the lower pH and TA.
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anonapersona
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Post subject: Re: Are pine needles affecting my pH  Posted: August 29th, 2010, 10:56 pm |
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If you have the same water I have then lowering TA would be a good thing. I doubt that it will be much of an issue in that way. Much more important I think is that the pine needles in the skimmer can cause the system to suck air, drawing air into the pump basket and the pump and the filter. The pump does not do well with air in the system. If bits of pine needles get past the skimmer they can mess with the pump impeller also. I suggest that you may want to use skimmer socks to do an even better job of catching leaves of all sorts. And then you will have to remember to check them often, maybe every day in the fall, maybe twice a day if it is stormy. They are great in the spring pollen season. Not great if you pour bleach into the skimmers as that will destroy the sock pretty quickly. Local stores carry skimmer socks, or try http://www.poolproducts4less.com
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midtngal
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Post subject: Re: Are pine needles affecting my pH  Posted: August 30th, 2010, 6:00 pm |
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Joined: October 26th, 2007, 7:15 am Posts: 309 Location: Nashville, TN
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I'll throw my 2 cents in here since I have MASSIVE issues with pine needles due to 100 ft. white pines all along my property line which is adjacent to the pool. Let me point out that they are not mine or they would have been gone a long time ago!  I keep skimmer socks in both skimmers but STILL have to clean the impeller every other weekend. Those needles will get into that impeller even with the socks, but it is critical that you have these. But, to your question of pH, I don't really notice much change in my pH. I have a SWG which is supposed to increase pH somewhat but mine doesn't seem to. Maybe this is where the pine needles come into play. I would strongly suggest you check your impeller for needles. Mine will wrap around it like strings in a vacuum! This may be keeping your pump from running properly which might really be the issue with your pH. Just my so humble opinon!  Good luck! Karen
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