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kingjon3rd
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Post subject: Aqua-Rite vs Aqua-Rite Pro w/ Sense and Dispense  Posted: June 13th, 2010, 7:00 pm |
Joined: May 29th, 2010, 8:57 pm Posts: 7
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Looking to get a SWG in the near future, any opinions on getting the standard Aqua-Rite vs the Aqua-Rite Pro version with the capability to upgrade later with the sense and dispense option...
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kingjon3rd
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Post subject: Re: Aqua-Rite vs Aqua-Rite Pro w/ Sense and Dispense  Posted: June 15th, 2010, 10:36 am |
Joined: May 29th, 2010, 8:57 pm Posts: 7
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Let me rephrase this, does anyone own the Aquarite pro with the sense and dispense and do you like it?
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JasonLion
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Post subject: Re: Aqua-Rite vs Aqua-Rite Pro w/ Sense and Dispense  Posted: June 15th, 2010, 10:53 am |
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Joined: May 7th, 2007, 3:03 pm Posts: 23445 Location: Silver Spring, MD
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It can be nice to have the automated PH control part of the Sense and Dispense system, but I find the ORP portion useless for an outdoor residential pool. Given the price, most people don't get the Sense and Dispense add on.
_________________ 19K gal, vinyl, 1/2 HP WhisperFlo pump, 200 sqft cartridge filter, AutoPilot Digital SWG, Dolphin Dynamic cleaning robot TFP Admin. Creator of The Pool Calculator. Other handy links: Support this site, TF Test Kits, Pool School
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el duderino
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Post subject: Re: Aqua-Rite vs Aqua-Rite Pro w/ Sense and Dispense  Posted: August 5th, 2010, 2:07 pm |
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JasonLion wrote: It can be nice to have the automated PH control part of the Sense and Dispense system, but I find the ORP portion useless for an outdoor residential pool. Given the price, most people don't get the Sense and Dispense add on. Is it possible to add the ph functionality only? My chlorine (in SWG pool) stays relatively under control. However, due to the salt and the massive aeration I have with my negative edge and skuppers, my ph drift continues to be a nightmare. http://theaustindude.blogspot.com
_________________ Our pool- (in process) 38x15 Free Form Gunite (3.5'-8'), 26' Negative Edge and 7' Negative Edge spa with blower, Midnight Blue Diamondbrite, AquaLogic PS-8 control, Goldline Salt Chlorine Generator, 1.5hp Pentair 2 speed pumps (2), Pentair DE Filter, Pentair 400k BTU Heater, and BlackMaxPolaris 280 cleaner with Hayward booster pump
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JasonLion
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Post subject: Re: Aqua-Rite vs Aqua-Rite Pro w/ Sense and Dispense  Posted: August 5th, 2010, 3:00 pm |
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Joined: May 7th, 2007, 3:03 pm Posts: 23445 Location: Silver Spring, MD
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Yes, the PH and ORP automation can be turned on and off separately in the Sense and Dispense setup.
_________________ 19K gal, vinyl, 1/2 HP WhisperFlo pump, 200 sqft cartridge filter, AutoPilot Digital SWG, Dolphin Dynamic cleaning robot TFP Admin. Creator of The Pool Calculator. Other handy links: Support this site, TF Test Kits, Pool School
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el duderino
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Post subject: Re: Aqua-Rite vs Aqua-Rite Pro w/ Sense and Dispense  Posted: August 5th, 2010, 3:50 pm |
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Would there be a substantial savings in not using the ORP?
_________________ Our pool- (in process) 38x15 Free Form Gunite (3.5'-8'), 26' Negative Edge and 7' Negative Edge spa with blower, Midnight Blue Diamondbrite, AquaLogic PS-8 control, Goldline Salt Chlorine Generator, 1.5hp Pentair 2 speed pumps (2), Pentair DE Filter, Pentair 400k BTU Heater, and BlackMaxPolaris 280 cleaner with Hayward booster pump
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JasonLion
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Post subject: Re: Aqua-Rite vs Aqua-Rite Pro w/ Sense and Dispense  Posted: August 5th, 2010, 7:25 pm |
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Using ORP requires using a lower CYA level, which means the cell needs to run longer to produce enough chlorine, and so needs to be replaced more frequently. You also need a somewhat larger cell than you would otherwise need to be able to keep up with the increased chlorine demand. The difference isn't dramatic, but it is noticeable. You also need to replace the PH and ORP sensors about every two years, which is also a noticeable expense. If you have ORP turned off, you can simply not replace the ORP sensor, for some savings.
Depending on details of your pool that are difficult to evaluate in advance, the ORP automation may or may not work at all. If it does work, the only real advantage is when you have a large swim party. ORP automation can add the extra chlorine required by it's self, while percentage based automation requires manual intervention when the bather load is suddenly higher than usual.
_________________ 19K gal, vinyl, 1/2 HP WhisperFlo pump, 200 sqft cartridge filter, AutoPilot Digital SWG, Dolphin Dynamic cleaning robot TFP Admin. Creator of The Pool Calculator. Other handy links: Support this site, TF Test Kits, Pool School
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el duderino
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Post subject: Re: Aqua-Rite vs Aqua-Rite Pro w/ Sense and Dispense  Posted: August 5th, 2010, 8:30 pm |
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Joined: June 15th, 2008, 10:27 pm Posts: 78 Location: Austin, TX
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Living in Central TX, my SWG is pretty taxed during the heat of the summer regardless of CYA level. It's probably a bit undersized for my pool with all the heat and movement of water. I don't think ORP would be much value to me, but automating the PH would be. However, I'm not a fan of having large vats of muriatic acid laying around, so I would have to opt for the CO2, which I'm guessing would add some additional cost (although depending on how long it lasts, might be much cheaper than all the MA I have to buy to keep up).
What is the price for the system, if intending to to PH automation only? It seems a bit unclear based on what I've read.
_________________ Our pool- (in process) 38x15 Free Form Gunite (3.5'-8'), 26' Negative Edge and 7' Negative Edge spa with blower, Midnight Blue Diamondbrite, AquaLogic PS-8 control, Goldline Salt Chlorine Generator, 1.5hp Pentair 2 speed pumps (2), Pentair DE Filter, Pentair 400k BTU Heater, and BlackMaxPolaris 280 cleaner with Hayward booster pump
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Red
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Post subject: Re: Aqua-Rite vs Aqua-Rite Pro w/ Sense and Dispense  Posted: September 11th, 2010, 1:49 am |
Joined: September 11th, 2010, 12:53 am Posts: 15 Location: Southern California
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I have AquaRite Pro with Sense & Dispense. We recently remodeled and added this. We turned it on in February of this year. I'm the pool man, so we decided to buy the system to make my life easier.
The pH part is fabulous. I love it. I always had pH issues in the old pool. It was usually around 7.8; I never got it down to 7.5. With Sense & Dispense it's almost always at 7.5. I couldn't be happier.
I'm using the MA tank. The pool remodel company didn't even tell me that CO2 was an option. I suppose I could change to it if I wanted, although CO2 tanks aren't as easy to come by as MA. I was concerned that MA tank + young kids = trouble, but so far it hasn't been. A Hayward service person mentioned some issues with CO2, but since I don't have it, I didn't find out more about the problem.
The ORP part is driving me nuts. I just joined TFP to post about this if I can't find anyone else with answers. I found TFP a few months ago (and it's a great help). Look for a post about AquaRite Pro Sense & Dispense ORP problems if I can't find another thread on it.
_________________ Southern California • 30K gal • Pebble • Pentair WhisperFlo 1HP 2 speed • Hayward DE6020 filter Goldline Controls AquaRite Pro SWG (T-CELL 15) with Sense & Dispense Total Chemistry (acid) Inter-Fab G-Force slide • 4 Jandy deck jets • 1 lion head spout • Paramount Debris Canister • Hayward ColorLogic LED Dolphin Diagnostic Cleaner • Taylor K-2006 test kit
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anonapersona
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Post subject: Re: Aqua-Rite vs Aqua-Rite Pro w/ Sense and Dispense  Posted: September 11th, 2010, 7:39 pm |
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CO2 tanks ought to be easy to find at the local welding supply center. I added CO2 to my planted fish tanks.
_________________ 22,000 gallon in ground pool with rock waterfall and spillover spa, Aqualink control system, Polaris cleaner, Purex Triton Clean&Clear Plus cartridge filter. Located in The Woodlands, Texas. Trouble Free Pool since April 2009.
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